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classic juggernaut vs. kalibak

and the winner is?

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kalibak bfr's or juggernaut wins

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hmmm, i could have sworn i heard kalibak was able to hold his own against superman for a couple hours which would make him a good match for juggs. guess not sad

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hmmm, i could have sworn i heard kalibak was able to hold his own against superman for a couple hours which would make him a good match for juggs. guess not sad

Well kal is ALOT stornger and more durable then juggs but juggs has a forcefeild and im not sure a beta club would be enough to break it

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juggernaut kalibak is dumb and cant overpower him


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kalibak. One well placed hit and the helmet comes off. And we already know Juggs doesn't use that force field too often. Wolverine and other have hit him too many times. Once the helmet is off, it's psychich Omega beams for the win.


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ok, no forcefield for juggs to even things out.

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ok, no forcefield for juggs to even things out.

beta club thru the brain

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1. Juggernaut doesn't rely on any sort of force-field except according to one Thor comic that's been contrradicted elsewhere numerous times.

2. Different writers seem to disagree on whether or not he's COMPLETELY immune to physical attacks, but the consensus seems to be that top tiers can't affect him. He's taken shots from people as strong as Kalibak several times to no effect. Dr. Strange even said he can't do squat to Juggernaut without prep time.

3. Juggernaut has appeared stronger than Thor and the Professor Hulk before. He completely annihilated Captain Britain. When he was at less than half power he was still stronger than Collossus. I think he's noticably stronger than Kalibak.

4. Classic Kalibak doesn't have psi-beams. Now, if we mean the powered up Kalibak from the recent Firestorm arc, this would be a pretty good fight.

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Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
1. Juggernaut doesn't rely on any sort of force-field except according to one Thor comic that's been contrradicted elsewhere numerous times.

2. Different writers seem to disagree on whether or not he's COMPLETELY immune to physical attacks, but the consensus seems to be that top tiers can't affect him. He's taken shots from people as strong as Kalibak several times to no effect. Dr. Strange even said he can't do squat to Juggernaut without prep time.

3. Juggernaut has appeared stronger than Thor and the Professor Hulk before. He completely annihilated Captain Britain. When he was at less than half power he was still stronger than Collossus. I think he's noticably stronger than Kalibak.

4. Classic Kalibak doesn't have psi-beams. Now, if we mean the powered up Kalibak from the recent Firestorm arc, this would be a pretty good fight.


Who also happened to be physically upgraded as well.


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1. Juggernaut doesn't rely on any sort of force-field except according to one Thor comic that's been contrradicted elsewhere numerous times.

2. Different writers seem to disagree on whether or not he's COMPLETELY immune to physical attacks, but the consensus seems to be that top tiers can't affect him. He's taken shots from people as strong as Kalibak several times to no effect. Dr. Strange even said he can't do squat to Juggernaut without prep time.

3. Juggernaut has appeared stronger than Thor and the Professor Hulk before. He completely annihilated Captain Britain. When he was at less than half power he was still stronger than Collossus. I think he's noticably stronger than Kalibak.

4. Classic Kalibak doesn't have psi-beams. Now, if we mean the powered up Kalibak from the recent Firestorm arc, this would be a pretty good fight.


1. Bullshit
2. Also bullshit. He has been affect numerous times. It only takes a high degree of strength to do it. Strength which almost nobody in marvel has.
3. Post scans of the first one and Kalibak could 1 hit colossus at 1 /10th strength
4. Got nothing to say about this one

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kalibak. One well placed hit and the helmet comes off. And we already know Juggs doesn't use that force field too often. Wolverine and other have hit him too many times. Once the helmet is off, it's psychich Omega beams for the win.

That was back when Jugg's was still learning, and didn't have mastery over his powers.

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That was back when Jugg's was still learning, and didn't have mastery over his powers.


Right. That is why He is still constantly being hit with physical force. If he had his force field up, why didn't he turn it on so that WWH couldn't touch him?


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1. Bullshit
2. Also bullshit. He has been affect numerous times. It only takes a high degree of strength to do it. Strength which almost nobody in marvel has.
3. Post scans of the first one and Kalibak could 1 hit colossus at 1 /10th strength
4. Got nothing to say about this one

You are wrong about all your arguments.
Also, if you haven't read the books where he treated Prof Hulk and the others as if they were little queens, that's your own problem, and you probably shouldn't be in here arguing with the Big Boys, now should you?
If you don't know what you are talking about, why would you debate?

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Right. That is why He is still constantly being hit with physical force. If he had his force field up, why didn't he turn it on so that WWH couldn't touch him?
Obviously, it was because he knew that WWH didn't have anything Jugg's needed to be scared of.
After the initial exchange, (and I am being very generous by even calling it that), Hulk ran like his life depended on it.
If I know I am going to go fight a preschooler, I'm not going to use a shotgun.

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Obviously, it was because he knew that WWH didn't have anything Jugg's needed to be scared of.
After the initial exchange, (and I am being very generous by even calling it that), Hulk ran like his life depended on it.
If I know I am going to go fight a preschooler, I'm not going to use a shotgun.

OH please. That is just a sad excuse. Juggs forcefield is either a one time thing, or something he doesn't know how to use. He's been in comics since the freaking 60's. He should know how to use his shield. To be honest, he really either doesn't have one as that was PIS or he doesn't know how to use it well.


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OH please. That is just a sad excuse. Juggs forcefield is either a one time thing, or something he doesn't know how to use. He's been in comics since the freaking 60's. He should know how to use his shield. To be honest, he really either doesn't have one as that was PIS or he doesn't know how to use it well.
Umm Nvr he has always had a force field and used it more than once.

What he was getting at is that the instant where his Durability was tied directly to his durability was a one time deal with many other instances of it not being true.


Yes Cain doesn't always fight to the best of his abilities but he isn't stupid and on these forums we assume the best for characters. So Cain will put his shield up and commence to beat up on Kalibak.


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Umm Nvr he has always had a force field and used it more than once.

What he was getting at is that the instant where his Durability was tied directly to his durability was a one time deal with many other instances of it not being true.


Yes Cain doesn't always fight to the best of his abilities but he isn't stupid and on these forums we assume the best for characters. So Cain will put his shield up and commence to beat up on Kalibak.


No he won't. Kain fights in character. And Kalibak is stronger and has more resources. The Juggernaut wanking is rediculous. He's been hurt a few times. And he WILL fight in character. Oh yes, and he's quite stupid. Or did you forget how stupid he looked fighting WWH.


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