This is harder, so far i have Supes Punching a hole through Namor at ftl speed at the "go". and maybe moving on to Ironman at the second micro second, and obliterating the suit.
kinda stuck at Apoc/Mags w/shield already up VS. Thor and Supes.
Anyone got an example of anything that has pierced mags shield before? Apocs matter manip might be good for keeping supes at bay , if he can get the radiation strain right..Assuming Supes doesnt BFR him straite after the Iron man suit ripping - so by millisecond 5 or 6.
So youre basically saying that superman can solo this since he never performed a feat like that in the past. Can you show me a scan of him or thor blitzing someone at the speed of light.
kmc rules state full ability use, and you removed CIS, he is bloodlusted, is there really any reason he would not fight at light speed if the enemy could not? - in this battle-
I understand full ability but again there is no proof that indicate that superman has ever his entire career blitzed someone at light speed. Im not saying that he hasnt flown light speed but blitz, havent been shown or said yet.
It doesnt have to be lightspeed, but we HAVE seen him blitz people before they could even think about reacting. And weve seen him fight at speeds faster than Human eyes can see. (not in a blind spot sort of way, in a he's moving to fast kinda way).
So i'll re-phrase, at the 'GO', he moves to ironman at speeds faster than any human can react and rips the head off a suit with one punch, im sure your not going to say that doesnt happen just because he HASNT done it before..right?
Then in another motion faster than any human mind can react he punches a hole in Namor. Then there we are..Apoc/Mags vs Thor n Supes..lets say it takes a full second to do those 2 activities.
quite reasonable but the thing about this is that namor has fought the top tiers of the top tiers in marvel and held his own and never showed that he can get a hole punched in him. I just dont see that happening. Him ripping through Iron man, well it could happen but the thing about that is ironman has some amazing reaction time and can basically have a forcefield over himself before any of this happen.
In this fight he is going to need thor and he is going to need him bad or he is as dead as he can get.
If superman could do all of these amazing things that youre saying that he can do nobody in dc universe would stand a chance, hell i would give him 10/10 against darkseid.
IF he could do all these amazing things ^^, i take it as "for the sake of the plot" when Supes takes longer than half a panel to put someone down - not EVERYONE obviously- but anyone who cannot REACT faster than he can move to them, lasting more than 1 panel - or in the case of this battle a couple of micro seconds, i cast aside as plot device.
There is no reason why Supes would NOT move at his maximum speed when vs an enemy OTHER than Plot device..is there? And since thats removed here in this battle..well, you know my stance.
And in regards to Namor, if Wolverine can break skin with les than 1 ton of force, than what do you suppose Supes 1000 ton force will do..?
piercing damage dont equal blunt force, two different things. Hell, thanos has been pierced by wolverine, do you think that superman could punch a hole in him. Hulk has been pierced by wolverine, do you think that superman can punch a hole in him. Hell despero slashed superman across the face with regular talons, does that mean that hulk can punch a hole in him.
Answer this, if superman could do all of those things that youre saying why dont comics pit him against similar characters? You cant use flash as an example because majority of his enemies get overwhelmed by flash speed and majority of the time they have prep or its always a plot device, I have yet to see any of flash enemies without speed go h2h with him.
Namor has been fighting top tiers his entire career, every since his creation so I dont think fighting superman would be as extreme as you think it would be (even though in the end he would get overwhelmed by superman due to superman being more powerful). Thor is needed in this battle, without him the team win 10/10 and quite easily. Hell poloris (evil version) has owned superman and magneto>>poloris.
i'll back down on that, you win, namor remains intact, but beaten down by being overwhelmed, but i still maintain that iron man will be downed in seconds.
And i pose a question to you sir.
Is Superman fast enough to blitz/bfr half this team faster than they could react to him?
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