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Fourth Celestial host vs DC Earth

Celestials:

One Above All

Arishem the judge

Hargen the measurer
Tefral the surveyor
Nezarr the calculator
Gammenon the gatherer
Jemiah the analyzer
Eson the searcher
Oneg the prober
Ziran the tester

keep in mind this is DC earth, not DC universe.

Wonder Woman does not have the godwave in this.
Spectre is at normal power.
Superman is pre crisis

Does DC earth have a chance?


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even at normal power i think spectre is to much keep him out cause even on earth his powers elevate depending on who he is fighting.

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I'm going with the celestials here. Spectre at normal pl be able to hold his own against several of them, but i doubt if he's not gonna be hardpressed just to put down one. One, two or three of them might own every single being there is in DC earth while Spectre is occupied.

Every single pantheon on MU earth and eternals banded together and had literally one-sided prep on their side and still had their ass handed to them.


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yeah but the gods of MU are weaker then the DCU in the DCU one god like ares or circe has the potential to destroy the entire world while in the MU only the sky fathers have that power IMO cause i havent heard of loki or others having that power go look up DC ares vs MU ares and you'll see what im talking about i think that the DC gods would have a much better chance of defeating the celestials DC ares could controll there weapons and cause them to fight each other like he did the whole planet earth.

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Marvel gods are not weaker, Dc gods would've got there ass handed to them also, these are Celestial they are one of the top beings in the universe. Celestial has pack a very hard to beat if you add Exitar , Dc earth is dead on arrival.

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they may be top in MU but this isnt the MU is it? Ares alone could make them fight each other perhaps and controll there weapons why would they fare so well against the DCU as they did against the MU no i dont think they could win.

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The celestials have been described as "space gods" and that seems to me to be the best description of them. In my mind they are the most powerful physical beings in the MU and are just below the abstracts.

Case in point, Thor's Godblasts (an attack that would have killed most of the DC heroes) barely caused one celestial to notice him. I just don't see DC earth having the firepower to put down one of them, much less 10.


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you forget you have guys on earth like mr miricle do you now he alone would defeat them and so could the spectre the gods of DCU would mount an offensive that would be big time better then the MU's

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If Shazam ( a skyfather) can put up a good fight with the Spectre, I don't think he's gonna put down a celestial. Espically since the thread starter put in that this is a "normal" Spectre and not a more powerful version. What exactly will the DC gods to the celestials? No one in the MU messes with them and for good reason. They are low on feats but the fact that ALL of the marvle gods and the eternals couln't hurt ONE celestrial, puts into doubt if the DC Earth could do anything.


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like i said already the DCU gods are greater then then the MU what MU god below a sky father ever took over the world under his or her own power or had the potential to do so or even destroy the planet like circe or ares of DC name one please if those guys are that strong can you imaginge how strong the godheads of the DCU are DC zues was a member of the quentenssence alongside highfather who is probably galactus level and ganthet who's powers i dont know how big they are but they are pretty big since he is the most powerful of the gaurdians and lets not forget the stranger. and the spectre was toying with him come on one moment he is having a problem the next he destroy the rock of eternity i think thats toying since he simply drained shazam of his powers after a while he just got tired or messing with him i would think and just finished him off

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This is DC earth not DC universe so Ganthet and High Father are not there (isn't High Father dead anyway?) Doesn't WonderWoman do pretty well against Cires and Ares? They may be powerful enough to take over the world or destroy it, but the heroes in DC always stop them. The celestrials are just below the abstracts, being able to blow up a planet doesn't really compare to the power they are suspose to have. Nothing in the entire Marvel Universe has ever been shown to even phase these guys.


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like i said already the DCU gods are greater then then the MU what MU god below a sky father ever took over the world under his or her own power or had the potential to do so or even destroy the planet like circe or ares of DC name one please if those guys are that strong can you imaginge how strong the godheads of the DCU are DC zues was a member of the quentenssence alongside highfather who is probably galactus level and ganthet who's powers i dont know how big they are but they are pretty big since he is the most powerful of the gaurdians and lets not forget the stranger. and the spectre was toying with him come on one moment he is having a problem the next he destroy the rock of eternity i think thats toying since he simply drained shazam of his powers after a while he just got tired or messing with him i would think and just finished him off


DC gods are neither greater nor weaker than MU. They are both too many obscure entities and there is no sign of them exceeding each other.


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The Celestials issue a severe beating.


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celestials throw planets around. dc earth would be tossed into the sun or a black hole with no effort.

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Yeah, i remember that in IG. It's friggin intergalactic alley-hoops stick out tongue

Commentator1: here comes arishem
Commentator2: Oh he's being double teamed by Ziran and Hargen
Commentator1: passes to Gamiel. Oneg now setting it up.
Commentator2: Oooh* blocked by Exitar . He's celestial Shaq afterall.....wait....it's Oneg.........the proberrrrr!
Commentator1: He scores
Black Celestial: booh!!!


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Oh come on! Isn't someone going to say PC Supes sneezes and.....


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only if they are retarded. That issue with the eternals happened on silver age with thor doing one-shot powers that was as ridiculous as pre-crisis supes.


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i have already seen many feats that the DC gods are greater then then the MU gods if you dont wish to research that well thats your problem not mine and wonderwomen and superman defeating them is part of the plot you really think there going to always win then there would be no woner women or superman comics oh well issue whatever superman meats darkseid but since we arent explained about the source thing he gets wiped out by the OB ok no more superman comics COME ONE PEOPLE its juts like when abraxas was destroying the universe and franklin richards brings him back out of no were and no wonderwomen didnt beat ares she had to talk him out of what he was doing and its not like lower level characters have not been shown to beat those who make them look like ants for example when superman defeats mr M the fifth dimension imp you really think that if there was no plot deviced that superman would stand a chance?

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i have already seen many feats that the DC gods are greater then then the MU gods if you dont wish to research that well thats your problem not mine and wonderwomen and superman defeating them is part of the plot you really think there going to always win then there would be no woner women or superman comics oh well issue whatever superman meats darkseid but since we arent explained about the source thing he gets wiped out by the OB ok no more superman comics COME ONE PEOPLE its juts like when abraxas was destroying the universe and franklin richards brings him back out of no were and no wonderwomen didnt beat ares she had to talk him out of what he was doing and its not like lower level characters have not been shown to beat those who make them look like ants for example when superman defeats mr M the fifth dimension imp you really think that if there was no plot deviced that superman would stand a chance?


-Mxy is not a god. And neither are the celestials. They are just deemed that way. That analogy could have been relevant if not for the fact that 5d imps are far far greater in power than just some skyfather.
-MU Gods have rarely showed up their ugly mugs to judge any of them. Only a handful Skyfather has ever graced the pages of MU that actually did something. You cannot compare and indicate something is greater if that something doesn't even exist.
-DC Gods having any greater than MU gods feats is arguable unless they try to get some plot device item, weaponry or powersource.


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what are you talking about?

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