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Oblivion vs Mad Jim Jaspers

Who takes it.

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wasnt he powerless when they placed him into a dimension with no reality to warp?
if thats true oblivion can win if its not then mjj wins

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Where exactly is MJJ on the cosmic scale?Also what comics are MJJ in?

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Jaspers.

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Oblivion. Jaspers can't create, he can only warp what already exsists.

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but if he can warp nothingness like mxy can he can beat oblivion.

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You can't warp nothingness.

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mxy has and he did it on panel. though logicaly it shouldnt be possible

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mxy has and he did it on panel.

MJJ isn't Mxy.

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Oblivion can't be manipulated.

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I'm pretty sure Oblivion's realm is still a reality unto itself. It's appearance indicates that it's just the end of the universe, or the beginning, rather than the absence of the universe. In other words, REALITY still exists (which is why you see all those dead planets), it's just that little else does.

Which means that Jasper could win.

Add to that, Oblivion is more likely a single-universe being where as Jasper was a threat to the omniverse, and...

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Oblivion can't be manipulated.

Based on what?

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Based on what?

I see Oblivion as a universal being, not really a single entity but an idea a force of nature taht can take any shape depending on the observer. Whatever MJJ can direct at Oblivion, Oblivion would just reform elsewhere whole.

I don't even think that if MJJ destroyed the dimension Oblivion resided in that it would destroy him, it would just sleep and wait for another big bang to happen.

Toltec Indians believe in a triad force being the Known, the Unknown and Intent. Oblivion is the closest thing to the Unknown Marvel has. And that can never die.

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I see Oblivion as a universal being, not really a single entity but an idea a force of nature taht can take any shape depending on the observer. Whatever MJJ can direct at Oblivion, Oblivion would just reform elsewhere whole.

I don't even think that if MJJ destroyed the dimension Oblivion resided in that it would destroy him, it would just sleep and wait for another big bang to happen.

Toltec Indians believe in a triad force being the Known, the Unknown and Intent. Oblivion is the closest thing to the Unknown Marvel has. And that can never die.

So based on nothing, cool.

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So based on nothing, cool.

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I'm pretty sure Oblivion's realm is still a reality unto itself. It's appearance indicates that it's just the end of the universe, or the beginning, rather than the absence of the universe. In other words, REALITY still exists (which is why you see all those dead planets), it's just that little else does.

Which means that Jasper could win.

Add to that, Oblivion is more likely a single-universe being where as Jasper was a threat to the omniverse, and...

oblivions realm has little to no reality and is where people hit by the UN. goes

but oblivion himself stated on panel he is beyond his realm.
and his true form is no form or substance(infinit nothingness)

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quote: (post)
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I'm pretty sure Oblivion's realm is still a reality unto itself. It's appearance indicates that it's just the end of the universe, or the beginning, rather than the absence of the universe. In other words, REALITY still exists (which is why you see all those dead planets), it's just that little else does.

Which means that Jasper could win.

Add to that, Oblivion is more likely a single-universe being where as Jasper was a threat to the omniverse, and...

he cant be a single universe being to the fact that he swallows multiple collapings universes at a time

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I don't even think that if MJJ destroyed the dimension Oblivion resided in that it would destroy him, it would just sleep and wait for another big bang to happen.

when thanos destroyed the omniverse. death appeared out of nothingness , she was unaffected.

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when thanos destroyed the omniverse. death appeared out of nothingness , she was unaffected.

Thanos never destroyed the omniverse.

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oblivion doesnt reside anywhere, because places are part of infinty, he is the nothingness outside of space. remember when drax and phyla went searching for moondragon in limbo? thar was part of oblivion, he has/is several dimensions like that: his realms, unplaces with nothing in them

if mjj cant create and has been neutralized by being in a reality without anything to warp, than he is screwed. oblivion takes him in and leaves him grounded forever.

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