Wonder Woman w/o powers runs the Street Level Gauntlet
This is Wonder Woman depowered to Olympic/peak human physical stats and robbed of her ability to fly. How far can she get by just with her fighting skills?
1. Green Arrow (no Bow)
2. Black Canary (no Scream)
3. Wildcat
4. Bane
5. Captain America
6. Lady Shiva
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Yea, Captain America stops her cold. Wonder Woman has absolutely no showings of hand to hand skills that I've actually seen to justify her beating Captain America as nothing more than an olympic level human. Or even peak human.
If she does not have any rest between the fights she stops at Wildcat.
I don't see her beating Captain America myself. Its easy to overlook the fact that though her skill is tremendous a lot of it is also due to her great combat speed (and conversely her combat speed is helped by her great skill).
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I have not seen absolutely anything from Wonder Woman in terms of skill to suggest she can beat Captain America while shes at this level. Nothing at all. Captain America's physical advantage is significant, and his more skilled than her.
Diana has had several story arcs/situations where she has been depowered, and even in that state she still has borderline enhanced human prowess (still able to deflect/catch arrows, etc), and Batman has commented in JLA that he believes that she may be the best martial artist in the world. Unlike most other comparably super-powered beings (Superman, Thor, Powergirl, and others), Diana has spent a great deal of time training *without* her powers (such as when she was young, and challenges on Themiscyra she would face would involve her not having her gods-given abilities, via Hippolyta's magic, or when she goes on mystical sojourns where her powers don't work), and she doesn't suffer a lick in skills when not in a "super" state.
That said, she would make the edge against this list, but if there were two who by either skill or prowess would block her, it's Shiva and Captain America.
(BTW -- saying that Cap has more experience, and that you haven't seen any showing for WW to indicate that she would, at the very least, be in his skill range, means you haven't kept up with the character for at least the past 25 years...)
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She can basically turn her powers off by wanting to (speed and strength at least) and spars with him on even terms in that state, with both getting wins.
The only flaw in that reasoning is that the normative ratios in the Real World don't always translate into a comic setting: Steve wouldn't have as much an edge over (a de-powered) Diana as you might think (though he still would have one); she would still edge in skill, however, and that is what makes this challenge interesting...
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Amazon physiology too, normal assumptions even in-comic may not apply (and the top female martial artists never have that much problem against their male counterparts anyway).
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