w/Motherbox, Orion has more raw power. But I can't get the whuppin' Surfer put on Orion out of my head, and Warlock is definitely capable of winning quite a few.
I used to think Orion was, say, >> Superman. But I guess he's jobbed a few times recently, so who knows.
I take it you mean when he ran into the powered up Kalibak in Firestorm?
Other than that, he hasn't really.
Firestorm was doing decent against him for a moment, but all he was doing was slowing Orion down.. Firestorm batted him away, he came back and picked up a giant arch, Firestorm turned it to lead, the sudden increase in wieght made Orion struggle for a moment, during that time, Firestorm encased him... then Orion broke out, and started beating ass again.
He struggled a little against one of the Furies too, but given that the Furies also smacked up Wonder Woman and Barda at the same time, it's certainly not all that far fetched.
Through the course of that arc, Kalibak with a new powerup for Darkseid is the only thing that has truly downed him.
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Last edited by Juntai on Apr 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 PM
No soul suck, check out new gods v1 23. All new gods' souls are protected by...guess who...the ****ing source. They also can't be mentally ****ed either (although it seemed to happen once but was later retconned)
Intelligence goes to AW
Strength goes to Orion
Speed Orion
Skill Orion
Durability Orion
Raw power Orion (astro-force stalemated a universe destroying blast. "just a small burst can shatter worlds!")
That's the thing with Orion, he's hard to pin down because he's not popular. But, I 100% believe Orion could one shot Adam with the AF. KDAI. And nothing AW has can break the guy's forcefield.
He's the shit people...well, maybe not lately. Check out Red Orion. AWESOME!
Oh yeah, the Mother Box is just a step below mjolnir, it can actually suck people's energy away from them and such. Of course, Orion would be as strong and pissed as Savage Hulk if he used it that way, but he wouldn't become stupid like Hulk. Just nuts.
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Last edited by long pig on Apr 23rd, 2007 at 04:46 AM
Let's not forget the damned MOTHER BOX! He'll, I don't even call it a many mjolnir. That shit can do anything.
I'm tired of people saying the motherbox keeps Orion's rage because when he's raged he's stupid. But that's not the cage, he just as smart but 5x stronger, doesn't tire and all that.smart. The REAL reason he uses the MB for that is becaus he'd probably kill his own teammates.
His durability is his greatest power imo, but Orion's is better.
Orion already has superman type durability AND he has unbreakable shields.
That leads me to believe Orion is more durable. Well, too durable since he's naturally so durable yet still uses a force field.
hehhe about drax and gamora, he'd beat 'em both at the same time. Probably one shot 'em. Orion beat the greatest martial artist in the universe in hand to hand. Orion is probably the best fighter in D.C (but of course they would never say so).
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Last edited by long pig on Apr 23rd, 2007 at 07:55 AM
Dr.Strange goes through that same type of mental/reality crap every time he crosses into the dread dimension or IB's dimension. That wasn't a durability feat at all.
I can show you Strange going through certain dimensions where he's stretched for a long way and twisted and all that mess. It was most certainly happening to him because the owner of the dimension was doing it to him. I think the IB did it to him too.
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