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Dante vs Hazama

Capcom's iconic white-haired badass against the god of trolls himself. Who will come out on top?

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Hazama is much faster, that we know.

Legitimate lightning timing and a reaction-time feat of 1/480,000th of a second.


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Capcom's iconic white-haired badass against the god of trolls himself. Who will come out on top?


What does Dante have?


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What does Dante have?

All of his gear and ablities from Devil May Cry 3, including QuikSilver.

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Well, that isn't very fair at all.


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Hmmm... I suppose you have a point. Ok, he only has Rebellion, Ebony and Ivory, and Devil Trigger. Sorry, i'm kind of new to the whole Vs thread scene.

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I'm not seeing the part where Dante doesn't lose his head at the start of the fight.

The speed difference is astronomical, and Hazama and Ragna's clash in the cinematic of CS II busted an area equivelant to IIRC a city block.


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I'm rollin with Dante. Goin by actual showings, he is faster and stronger, by a great deal.


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Yeah I guess if you ignore dodging cloud to Earth lightning and 1/480,000th of a second feats of Hazama's.


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Let's all pretend that Dante doesn't toy with gangs of demons made outta lightnin.

This "lightnin timin" shit is hilarious to me.


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Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Demons being made out of lightning isn't suddenly a feat for Dante.

Dante has been clocked at mach 15 at his best.

I'm afraid that that is leagues slower than dodging cloud to ground lightning three consecutive times and having a reaction-time feat of 1/480,000th of a second.


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Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Demons being made out of lightning isn't suddenly a feat for Dante.

Dante has been clocked at mach 15 at his best.

I'm afraid that that is leagues slower than dodging cloud to ground lightning three consecutive times and having a reaction-time feat of 1/480,000th of a second.


So how does one keep up with, at least, 3 demons that transform into lightnin in close quarters combat? To even react to block a hit. . .

Where does the "timing" nonsense end? Especially with fightin game characters. They get so much shit thrown their way, they're faster than God. From now on, Ash Crimson is at least as fast as light, since he dodged Elizabeth's Platinum Mirage.


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So how does one keep up with, at least, 3 demons that transform into lightnin in close quarters combat? To even react to block a hit. . .

Where does the "timing" nonsense end? Especially with fightin game characters. They get so much shit thrown their way, they're faster than God.
Yeah... Them being made of electricity doesn't necessarily make them the same speed as it.



At 16:20 he dodges three consecutive lightning strikes from Rachel.

In the True Ending of CS, in 1/480,000th of a second, Relius manages to both kill Terumi's current body, and Terumi is then able to go to Takamagahara and upload a virus to incapacitate them.

Blazblue characters are fast.

Not even counting Terumi's broken ass abilities like mindrape or soul manipulation.


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Near enough city block, but is that an outliner feats or not? Havnt seen any other destructive feat close to the intro scenes blast in the rest of the game iirc.

Without QS, Alastor or his DMC4 Blitz reactions [who is a lightning being], he'll be... blitzed. I assume this is his DMC3 self only by the thread maker?


May fair well with DT and regen long enough to strike him. Though, normal 'to-date' Dante wins this. Low-end lightning timing is below his max amped speed, especially with QS even with higher lightning speed.


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Feats like that still confuse me. Is it a reaction feat or a reaction+movement feat?


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Near enough city block, but is that an outliner feats or not? Havnt seen any other destructive feat close to the intro scenes blast in the rest of the game iirc.


Well frankly, it's lower than implied capabilities, and the only concrete destructive feat.

For example, nukes were compared to pebbles when used against the Black Beast.

Two of the Six Heroes were very much capable of driving the Black Beast off with no help (Hakumen and Jubei managed this)

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Without QS, Alastor or his DMC4 Blitz reactions [who is a lightning being], he'll be... blitzed. I assume this is his DMC3 self only by the thread maker?

May fair well with DT and regen long enough to strike him. Though, normal 'to-date' Dante wins this. Low-end lightning timing is below his max amped speed, especially with QS even with higher lightning speed.


Terumi's best reaction-time feat is Relativistic+ actually.

How will Dante manage this when, while fighting and striking Dante, Terumi is also attacking his soul and mind? Mindrape is his hobby, and he has casually torn the souls out of an entire Librarium (Which has an armed force equivelant to a small nation's).

Frankly, I still don't actually buy Dante's alleged lightning timing with Alastor.

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Feats like that still confuse me. Is it a reaction feat or a reaction+movement feat?


Which feat?


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can we count dante's feats from dmc2 since it was never contradicted if so dante has a feat of dodging lightning thrown from mundus here's the quote “even as Mundus hurled all manner and death at dante from innumerable arms, Swords,arrows and,lightning all clattered around the silver haired warrior as he nimbly dodged with ease ” I didn’t think this would be this easy” dante laughed”
devil may cry 2 pg.152

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What are you talking about?

Also, DMC2 Dante isn't in this thread. That's Dante at IIRC his oldest, and somehow shittiest.


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Yeah... Them being made of electricity doesn't necessarily make them the same speed as it.

At 16:20 he dodges three consecutive lightning strikes from Rachel.

In the True Ending of CS, in 1/480,000th of a second, Relius manages to both kill Terumi's current body, and Terumi is then able to go to Takamagahara and upload a virus to incapacitate them.



And why not?

That is game-play. I can show you 1000 other vids of VG characters dodging electricity in gameplay.

Granted with the 1/480,000th. Okay, the Haz is really damn fast. Gotta get back into BB. However, Haz's reaction speed 2.08333333ms and Dante's is in DMC3, without DT is 5.10435ms or m/s (mach 15). Not that huge a difference.

With Dante's strength, coupled with DT, Haz is gonna need more than a speed edge to win. Haz needs more showings.


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What are you talking about?

Also, DMC2 Dante isn't in this thread. That's Dante at IIRC his oldest, and somehow shittiest.


i was talking about the the devil may cry 2 novel

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