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Silver Surfer vs Adam Warlock

Silver Surfer

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Adam Warlock

Who wins?

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The Surfer is more powerful, but Adam would win.


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why would adam win if surfer is more powerful?


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Adam Warlock has the Infinity Soul Gem. He can simply absorb Surfer's Soul.

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oh yea


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but what if adam doesnt have his gem, then who wins?


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Probably Surfer.

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Adam beats people more powerful than he is all the time. Why couldn't nebula see him in Infinity Gauntlet? He has a sort of deep subtlety to him has (when not crippled by his mental problems) allowed him to play above his head again and again.


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Adam's good!

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Without the gem? Surfer.

With the gem? Warlock.

Adam knows Silver Surfer is too much for him without his power gem.


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Please Warlock with or without the stinking gem
Thanos whips SS into shape nine out of ten times.
Warlock and Thanos fight to a standstill on every encounter.
During the Infiinity Wars Thanos didn't go to SS for help against the Magus, he went for Warlock. That should tell you right there what the deal is.

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i'm stunned everyone is saying AW. there is no way - even with the gem - he beats SS. his blasts didn't even bother hercules when they battled, and herc was whooping the tar out of AW. no chance he could wound SS. when thanos and SS attacked odin, AW had to back a km away just to stay out of reach of the peripheral damage the fight might cause. i think, honestly, that i have every appearance of AW up til about 2003. i love him, he's one of my faves, but he would not beat SS unless he had a lot of prep time. even then . . . goodness, there are certain characters who get a lot of luv in this forum . . . .


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Please Warlock with or without the stinking gem
Thanos whips SS into shape nine out of ten times.
Warlock and Thanos fight to a standstill on every encounter.
During the Infiinity Wars Thanos didn't go to SS for help against the Magus, he went for Warlock. That should tell you right there what the deal is.


When have the two fought? More importantly...when have the two fought while Warlock hasn't had the Soul Gem?

Thanos went to Warlock for help against Magus because Magus is Warlock's bad side. He was responsible for creating Magus and he was the one who knew how to beat him.


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When have the two fought? More importantly...when have the two fought while Warlock hasn't had the Soul Gem?

Thanos went to Warlock for help against Magus because Magus is Warlock's bad side. He was responsible for creating Magus and he was the one who knew how to beat him.


Why do I always agree totally with everything Linkalicious says confused smile

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When have the two fought? More importantly...when have the two fought while Warlock hasn't had the Soul Gem?

Thanos went to Warlock for help against Magus because Magus is Warlock's bad side. He was responsible for creating Magus and he was the one who knew how to beat him.


Yup I agree here. Magus was a tough sob. Even freaked Thanos out a little.


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Are you asking me when Thanos and SS have fought???
Or when Warlock and Thanos have fought?
Both occurences have happen buddy. Please don't sit here and tell me otherwise or I have to pull out issues numbers cuz this is getting pretty old. C'mon man are you kidding me???
Thanos didn't simply go to him because of that fact. He knew that Magus being the dark version of Warlock is a seperate entity, Warlock wouldn't have insight on him because Adam was without good nor evil. My point is Thanos went to him because of his power and him being part guardian of the gems. It wasn't for insight alone buddy, it was for extra help.
When Thanos discovered the Magus's base of operation, he realized the level of foe he would be up against and later discovering it to be the Magus needed Adam's assistance for extra muscle and to devise his plan B to fool Magus. It wasn't on intel at all buddy cuz Warlock had none to give him.

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Considering Silver Surfer's past association with him, Thanos wouldn't have gone to him for this form of assistance anyway. Adam Warlock was the one who read out Thanos during the Infinity Gauntlet as one who subconscious felt himself unworthy of such power and it was he who chose to spare him after the whole dilemma ended after Adam's party visited him in the near future. They have a greater connection and understanding with each other, but that doesn't make Adam Warlock powerful enough to easily take on Silver Surfer. I'd give the edge to Silver Surfer on sheer power alone (without the soul gem, Adam Warlock could have easily been brought down by just sheer physical force by a number of his foes).

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You forget that without his soul gem he was a force to be reconned. He would still have fought SS to almost victory. Adam is like the "First Man"
Supposedly genetically engineered to be perfection in every facet of life. Adam was fighting Mephisto and besting him b4 he became guardian of the gems and such. Therefore to say SS would defeat him without the gem is somewhat presumptious. Mephisto in his real is virtually unmatched.
And furthermore to add to my previous post above, Thanos and Warlock were so clueless as to what the Magus was up to that they went to Death's realm to seek out info from the Well of Eternity.

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Are you asking me when Thanos and SS have fought???
Or when Warlock and Thanos have fought?
Both occurences have happen buddy. Please don't sit here and tell me otherwise or I have to pull out issues numbers cuz this is getting pretty old. C'mon man are you kidding me???
Thanos didn't simply go to him because of that fact. He knew that Magus being the dark version of Warlock is a seperate entity, Warlock wouldn't have insight on him because Adam was without good nor evil. My point is Thanos went to him because of his power and him being part guardian of the gems. It wasn't for insight alone buddy, it was for extra help.
When Thanos discovered the Magus's base of operation, he realized the level of foe he would be up against and later discovering it to be the Magus needed Adam's assistance for extra muscle and to devise his plan B to fool Magus. It wasn't on intel at all buddy cuz Warlock had none to give him.


I have numerous comics of Thanos and SS fighting. I MIGHT have a comic with Thanos and Warlock fighting, but odds are....he wasn't fighting Thanos 1 vs. 1.

I'm not kidding you. I have the Infinity Watch, Crusade, and Guantlet series...and FROM WHAT I CAN REMEMBER...the two haven't fought. I'm sure they've fought before, but I highly doubt Warlock fought him to a standstill.

And what muscle did Warlock provide to Thanos?


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Link for gods' sake man???
Are you joking buddy???
What help did he provide???
He was instrumental along with the entire Watch in the Thanos's plan.
The plan was that Thanos secretly knew what Magus was up to and needed Adam's participation to play along and back him up. When Magus took Warlock captive, Thanos said that they were screwed because without him, it's practically impossible to stop Magus and that he would have to do it alone even though the chances are nil. Cap then got on his high horses and said No, everybody is going because they didn't trust Thanos.
Second if Adam hadn't played along and pretended to reunite the gems to vanquish Magus, Thanos's plan would have washed up.

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