The Ellimist
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Rank the Ancient Sith
Rank the pre-Banite Sith (but including Bane and Zannah) in terms of overall combative ability. IMHO:
1. Vitiate [begrudgingly]
2. Darth Nihilus
3. Exar Kun
4-5-6. Freedon Nadd/Naga Sadow/Marka Ragnos
7. Darth Revan
8. Darth Jadus
9. The Dread Masters
10. Darth Malgus
Apr 19th, 2016 04:38 PM
Total Warrior
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Good list, but the dread masters as a whole should be higher imo
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Apr 19th, 2016 05:52 PM
Beniboybling
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Jadus should be above Kun and the rest.
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Apr 19th, 2016 06:36 PM
Darth Abonis
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Move Kun to just above Malgus and the list 100% solid.
Apr 19th, 2016 11:00 PM
AncientPower
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LMFAO @ Jadus > Kun, pure cancer.
Good list actually, though Freedon Nadd, and by extension Marka Ragnos and Karness Muur, was confirmed to be far more powerful than Naga Sadow.
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Apr 19th, 2016 11:35 PM
ares834
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When was Nadd confirmed to be "far more powerful"? And why does that mean Ragnos and Muur are as well?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Abonis
Move Kun to just above Malgus and the list 100% solid.
Apr 19th, 2016 11:51 PM
AncientPower
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That was confirmed in the fact file:
quote: "Freedon Nadd studied avidly under Naga Sadow. Eventually, the apprentice became far more powerful than the teacher..."
-The Official Fact File #90
This isn't exactly concrete but implies some degree of parity:
quote: "The spirits of powerful Sith Lords such as Marka Ragnos, Freedon Nadd, and Karness Muur..."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
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Apr 20th, 2016 12:03 AM
ares834
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Ah, cool. Never knew we had something that concrete on Nadd's powers.
To claim the latter suggest parity between them is quite a stretch though, rather it's just saying that they are powerful Sith Lords.
Apr 20th, 2016 12:09 AM
Sinious
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lol Malak is mentioned with Sidious in the same manner. Does it imply parity between them there?
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Apr 20th, 2016 12:33 AM
AncientPower
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On the former, it is important to note Freedon Nadd was growing constantly more powerful over the century of his rule on Onderon that followed his learning on Yavin IV:
quote: As Nadd's power grew over more than 100 years of rule..."
―The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
I agree the latter isn't much however.
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Apr 20th, 2016 04:37 AM
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Yeah. He far surpassed Naga Sadow's spirit. Like Kun did to Nadd's.
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Apr 20th, 2016 04:45 AM
Beniboybling
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AncientPower
LMFAO @ Jadus > Kun, pure cancer.
Shocker, I thought you'd agree with me.
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Apr 20th, 2016 09:02 AM
AncientPower
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Well of course I wouldn't, given SWTOR forum's incessant need to underrate Kun at the expense of all logic.
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Apr 20th, 2016 09:51 AM
Beniboybling
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Let the hate flow through you.
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Apr 20th, 2016 09:52 AM
AncientPower
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If pity equates hate around here, sure.
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Apr 20th, 2016 09:58 AM
Beniboybling
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Nah, piteous would be making up quotes to support my case. I'm not that desperate tho.
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Apr 20th, 2016 10:24 AM
AncientPower
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Oh no, a three year old accusation stolen from somebody that has twice your debating capacity, whatever should I do. Your attempt at Gideon tactics is poor.
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Apr 20th, 2016 11:04 AM
Beniboybling
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LMAO, you say accusation as if it isn't true.
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Apr 20th, 2016 11:13 AM
AncientPower
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It isn't and never was, I accept responsibility for having used them in debates, I did not however create them. I also apologised for it two years ago, you clinging to that is just plain evidence of your obvious vilification of me.
Go ahead and reinforce everything I think of you Beni, totally not expected at all.
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Apr 20th, 2016 11:34 AM
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