It's apparent that some posters don't really know enough about certain characters and are relying on some type of 2nd hand knowledge from scans, Wiki, etc. without the understanding and context derived from actually reading the comics. From my point of view it just looks like trolling. I read both companies and know enough about DS and Hulk to make that call.
Comparing Hulk to Superman or HP Doomsday is incorrect. Aside from strength there is nothing in common. Kryptonians on Earth have superhuman powers across the spectrum of abilities and also a degree on invulnerability along with a healing factor and superhuman durability. Not to mention the superhuman speed.
Darkseid is every bit Superman's peer regarding physical attributes. That pretty much trumps Hulk in overall physicality. DS can also control the OE and OS. The beams don't just travel in a straight line.
Hulk would be hard pressed to beat Silver Surfer in a straight up brawl and sure as hell isn't beating DS in a physical brawl or any other fight unless DS is heavily handicapped somehow...
Some people dont care or didnt read Badas post.
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Yeah, yeah, except the thing is, despite Hulk not "showing" feats on par with moving planets around in space, whether it's because he can't fly or otherwise, characters like Thor, Hercules, Gladiator, and any decent Herald have all displayed planet-crushing and busting powers. They've shown feats of durability, speed, strength, and other varying powers that at least equal, and plenty surpass, anything Superman's done. Not to say those characters are > Superman, but they've done respectable feats, and more often than not are respectable because they rival Superman's feats. Despite such various high showings of these many characters, Hulk has consistently been shown and proven to be at least(or eventually) an equal and fierce rival for any Superman-level character. Hulk has, plenty of times, taken the best of the best shots of these characters and stood up to them. And his shots have always been felt on those that take them. He's bloodied Thor, Gladiator, Hercules, Sentry, and others as well. Even when Hulk and Silver Surfer first met, Hulk's punches made Silver Surfer reel. So besides Silver Surfer's speed and ability to drain gamma energy, he's easily in range for Hulk to handle.
I believe Superman would take a majority against Savage Hulk, and do very well against WWHulk. Almost the same for Darkseid. But Superman has taken the Omega Effect in the face for f*ck's sake. And Darkseid has proven to be Superman's b*tch on so many occasions.
Now, I realize that in that other thread I was insisting on Hulk taking a majority against Darkseid. The simple answer for that is that almost every thread now juggles the "what if's" between So-And-So versus Savage Hulk, and then So-And-So versus WWHulk, and sometimes just So-And-So versus Hulk. I simply lost track of which Hulk we were talking about.
But the OE has proven to fail on occasion. And more than a few times on Superman. But the OE is not just fire, or a random type of energy, so it's really impossible to say what kind of effect it will have on Hulk, considering it doesn't work on everyone and Hulk's track record against mysterious energy-like attacks. It's often hit or miss. Especially WWHulk. He tanked a lot of what would've staggered Savage Hulk. Hulk has proven able to physically handle certain types of energy, even offensive energy, so who's to say to what extent or effect the OE would have on Hulk?
But as for H/P Doomsday? Although he's the advancement of the character and not really a different "incarnation", he is a league above his former power and so could be considered a different incarnation. Obviously Savage Hulk is out of the question. But WWHulk? He's a special incarnation as well, like Odinforce Thor or Source-Amped Orion. WWHulk was holding back the entire arc, right up until he went World Breaker, during which he was still holding back. So we never even saw WWHulk's upper limits. Considering what he did to Sentry and everyone else, and what he was doing just by taking idle footsteps, it'd be unfair or biased to say WWHulk is <<<<<< HP Doomsday. Even for a biased Doomsday fan, it should be a tad much to say he just up and stomps WWHulk.
WWH 7/10 and whoever wrote that hulk isnt on Supes, DD, etc... category need to ask a actual writer where they put hulk at on the tier chain. Given the opportunity hulk could f*** either of them up and by the way, hulk is stronger than the both of them.
The Hulk at WWH's levels takes HP Doomsday every time. He was pissed but still not angry enough to actually kill anyone and still has feats that pwn anything DD has done in both Strength, Durabilty, Endurance and Regen...in which neither Superman nor Doomsday has yet shown.
And Superman does not have regen anywhere close to even Wolverine's levels. If they did, neither him nor Doomsday would have died from physical punishment and exhaustion. Unless they can somehow manage to calm WWH or break him off from his source of gamma, Hulk will not take any lasting physical harm. FYI - Hulk's regenerative levels are beyond that of Deadpools, whose easily trumps Wolverines.
And even Savage Hulk's level of Strength and Regeneration is exactly why DD loses here. When Superman or Doomsday are at strength levels to crack the entire eastern seaboard with a footstep WHILE NOT EVEN TRYING, they may have a chance.
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