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Philosophía
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Super Skrull vs Gladiator

Who wins?


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glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.


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Yes, Skrull would need to fight really smart...


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glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.


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Gladiator 100/10.


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The Skrull gets turned into a smear in less than a microsecond.

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Originally posted by leonidas
glads for a heavy majority i'd think. skrull might be able to pull some force field shenanigans for a couple wins.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, Skrull would need to fight really smart...


Well, he kind of fights smart, no? And he has good defences against what Gladiator might resort to.

Heat vision for one, can be absorbed:
http://i.imgur.com/DCOX0Ln.jpg
http://imgur.com/a/fxhjO#2

His forcefield has withstood Thor's hammer:
http://i.imgur.com/5q7DrjP.jpg
Surfer's blasts:
http://i.imgur.com/AbR9cD7.png

And he can just simply open a forcefield in Gladiator's brain:
http://i.imgur.com/IZtKyvQ.jpg

He's smart enough to avoid an extended slugfest. And even so, he is quite capable:
http://i.imgur.com/q7YqXXP.gif

There's also Anti-Matter blasts:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...1389986-ss2.jpg

There's also hypnosis:
http://i.imgur.com/UluQsRO.jpg
&
http://i.imgur.com/gdjTqsb.jpg
&
http://puu.sh/hj0JD/0505d822af.jpg

Do you see Gladiator overcoming all of these for a majority?


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he does fight pretty smart, at least in his more recent portrayals. still, his invisibility wouldn't be an issue i don't think because of glads' enhanced senses. it's def possible he could absorb the heat vision, though i've not seen him absorb that type of focused blast before. his force field would def keep him in this for a while but i think glads would power through it eventually and even if ss used it offensively i'd think glads could handle it given some of his durability feats--especially in slugfest style matches.

if glads is fighting smart--using his speed--i don't really know if the hypnosis would work. it could i suppose, if he could manage to get glads into the right position to use it but i don't think that would happen very often. and the anti-matter stuff? never seen it used against anyone so i don't really know how that would affect gladiator. pretty sure that is a long forgotten power that was never raised again so tough to gauge its effectiveness.

i think ss could make a fight of it--especially if he goes for the kill with his forcefield--but other than that i think it's simple a matter of time before glads speed and strength overwhelm skrull for a solid majority.


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he does fight pretty smart, at least in his more recent portrayals. still, his invisibility wouldn't be an issue i don't think because of glads' enhanced senses. it's def possible he could absorb the heat vision, though i've not seen him absorb that type of focused blast before. his force field would def keep him in this for a while but i think glads would power through it eventually and even if ss used it offensively i'd think glads could handle it given some of his durability feats--especially in slugfest style matches.

if glads is fighting smart--using his speed--i don't really know if the hypnosis would work. it could i suppose, if he could manage to get glads into the right position to use it but i don't think that would happen very often. and the anti-matter stuff? never seen it used against anyone so i don't really know how that would affect gladiator. pretty sure that is a long forgotten power that was never raised again so tough to gauge its effectiveness.

i think ss could make a fight of it--especially if he goes for the kill with his forcefield--but other than that i think it's simple a matter of time before glads speed and strength overwhelm skrull for a solid majority.
I agree about invisibility, in the basic sense, though I don't recall offhand Kallark using his eyes with infrared, other than seeing long distances/HV. I know he has very good hearing, so that will help even if Super Skrull goes invisible, but still. Super Skrull has been multiple times being stated to be capable of absorbing ridiculous amount of heat, so I wouldn't bet for HV hurting him. Even if it starts hurting, he could simply block it with his shield, so there's that.

Gladiator has been contained by Sue's invisible shield momentarily [and Super-Skrull is superior to Sue]:
http://i.imgur.com/NR9sK0T.jpg
And in the previously posted Thor scan, he defends himself with the shield from hammer strikes, and then counter-attacks, which is a tactic I could see working against Gladiator:
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa...0987-rco015.jpg

I don't even know on this forum when we're ignoring speed and when we don't. By all accounts though, Super-Skrull is no slouch.

Against a speedster:
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...6669-rco021.jpg
Who is capable of this:
http://i.imgur.com/gtMDXrL.png [Quicksilver was carying somebody, but still]
Or this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa..._1468928810.jpg

The shield brain-squeeze is a tactic that, if not outright KO Gladiator, does enough damage that coupled with other attacks would lend him a win. Or he just does a brain-squeeze coupled with hypnosis [hard to shrug it off with your brain being squeezed].

I'm not quite sure what would happen a majority of time, but Super-Skrull has the heat vision covered, the physical part at least momentarily shielded/contained before he can move on to hypnosis/brain squeeze/combo between them. So I guess it's a matter of how many times Gladiator gets to put on the physical hurt before Super Skrull does his thing, and I'm leaning towards a <5/10.


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And he can just simply open a forcefield in Gladiator's brain:
http://i.imgur.com/IZtKyvQ.jpg
I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..? confused


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I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..? confused


You might as well give Skrull an advantage against all Heralds that doesn't have an insane healing factor.


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Yeah, it's a one-shot insta-win move, but can't see it working on everyone. Glads' durability should be too much?


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His skull innards should be pretty tough considering they didn't turn to mush when Bolt whispered directly into his ear.


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I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..? confused


Power through it.

I don't see it as a realistic alternative against people with gladiator's durability.

If someone tried that with say Superman or Thor they would probably be in pain but still keep going. Like we saw with Black Adam.


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I just want to know how Glads could realistically overcome something like this..? confused
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Yeah, it's a one-shot insta-win move, but can't see it working on everyone. Glads' durability should be too much?

Even if it's not a one-shot, it should immobilize/weaken him enough to beat the shit out of/hypnotize.

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If someone tried that with say Superman or Thor they would probably be in pain but still keep going. Like we saw with Black Adam.
Black Adam was unable to keep going, he was on the floor on his knees.


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Re: Super Skrull vs Gladiator

Between hypnosis, bubble in brains and all the rest...

I mean, he's shapeshifted out of the way of a charging Surfer:
http://i.imgur.com/MGlj2QV.png

His FF, against Genis:
http://i.imgur.com/RUjQmyU.png

And he can stretch pretty far, pretty quickly:
http://i.imgur.com/JJoU3un.jpg

HV from Glads? Great. Not only can he absorb unlimited heat, but it would actually heal him:

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploa..._1462192080.jpg

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploa..._1469463793.jpg

And he's taken blasts from Surfer:
https://static3.comicvine.com/uploa..._1468780204.jpg

Surfer, Moondragon and Genis combined (sure, it KOed him, but still):
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa..._1468780204.jpg

And of course, he actually combines his powers at once, unlike say, characters like Martian Manhunter.


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It was a forcefield the size of a football field opening up in his brain though.


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It was a forcefield the size of a football field opening up in his brain though.
Yeah, and it's Black Adam either way, not Glads [Cap Marvel has survived being turned inside out so their durability is a bit..out there].


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I think this actually depends on whether or not SS gets damaged by feedback from his force fields collapsing the way IW sometimes does. I think Glads is too durable for SS to actually crush his brain outright and I see the FF shattering if he tries but I DO think it'd be something that could seriously daze/damage Glads. So if SS is undamaged by the feedback he's going to have a really good opening to follow up with more attacks until Glads is put down... but if he's dealing with the shock to his system that Sue sometimes gets it's going basically balance out Glad's recovery time and I don't see SS being able to actually win strait up against a heavy hitter like Gladiator.


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