1). I'm still not sure. Superman treated trans-beings like fodder in this mental state and was stated to be able to stop Doomsday [who was H/P-DD Wars version, who tooled the JLA like nothing]. Since it was such a short appearance, it's basically a issue long >> trans tier showing, and the only ceiling he seemed to have is Imperiex -- which doesn't really help in this thread.
Superboy Prime treated the GLC like fodder, has laughed off at high-herald team-buster Black Adam [literally], has casually overpowered a gang of Earth heroes once sunlight hit him [SCW]. But then again, he has also been temporarily held in place by a single all-out Guardian [I'm not going to mention Teen Titans]. Kon/Bart are psychological stuff, so I'm not going to get into that.
I'd say Superman's trashing of fodder [Imperiex Probes] > Prime's trashing of fodder [Earth's heroes] on average, and Superman was implied to be doing it for days. And I don't think that Superman would have problems with any of his SBP's off days showings, while able to replicate all of his high [imo].
Even if raw power is arguable, if anything, I'd give Superman the edge because he is a smarter/better fighter, and just as ruthless [as weird as it is to type that, he was in that state].
2). Sundipped Supes, definitely. He overpowered Brainiac+Imperiex.
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i actually think classic superman would win both rds. the first would be very close but it is the mental aspect that would be the difference. prime was...a child mentally. superman would simply will himself to a victory, even if prime WAS a bit more powerful. which is certainly arguable.
the second fight would be much the same imo. again the mental part is huge for me. sun dipped superman was also likely more powerful. i think any time the the power gap is closed though, the true superman will win. he's just too mentally strong not to.
SMH...so his durability increase? Prime shot clean through him and took him out after that in a single hit. Don't think there is anything that could change the outcome of what happened.
If you weren't in denial, you wouldn't be making this argument. I and others have posted scans proving his durability fluctuates with his mindset. You've been shown this several times.
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