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TOAA vs The Leviathan (The Unwritten)

TOAA vs The Leviathan (The Unwritten)

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TOAA. Leviathan isn't even the supreme being in it's reality. It was created by another god.


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did the presence from vertigo create leviathan?


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did the presence from vertigo create leviathan?

No, it was one of the Mesopotamian gods. Ea or Enlil, I forgot which one.


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Utu created the Leviathan, iirc.

Although Enlil should logically be above it as well.


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Utu and Enlil should be above TOAA as well


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So Presence>>>>pantheon gods>Leviathan?


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unwritten and dc/vertigo isn't in the same verse


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So the Presence like we saw in Lucifer doesn't exist in Unwritten?


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So the Presence like we saw in Lucifer doesn't exist in Unwritten?


no they have nothing to do with each other

unwritten is completely independent from any of the dc cosmology

mike carey actually wanted to use some dc characters in unwritten, but dc said no.


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Utu and Enlil should be above TOAA as well
but why? Weren’t these two just part of Sumerian pantheon?

Why is Sumerian Pantheon > Greek or Norse? I haven’t read the unwritten but their universe seems limited, if they were in dc, wouldn’t they just fall in line with the other pantheons? Same within Marvel.
Again, I haven’t read it, but I’m into ancient mythologies and I’ll definitely check these out but from the outside looking in I would put these with the rest in marvel and dc, below the cosmic abstracts.

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Leviathan is responsible for infinite layers of realities with no top or bottom, wherea each layer reality view the previous one as mere fiction, Leviathan embodies the entire fictional worlds and stories

one of the most powerful being in all fiction

Utu/Enlil are even above Leviathan

Marvel doesn't have cosmology idea on this level


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wherea each layer reality view the previous one as mere fiction,

What does this mean? Is it somehow less to be fictional? And if so, why?

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Leviathan is responsible for infinite layers of realities with no top or bottom, wherea each layer reality view the previous one as mere fiction, Leviathan embodies the entire fictional worlds and stories
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Marvel doesn't have cosmology idea on this level

Marvel does, or at least used to. It was in an issue of Quasar when an alt reality version of Anomaly Maelstrom knocked Quasar clear out of the mainstream multiverse and into a whole different one completely alien to the multiverse based on 616 reality. It was the New Universe multiverse and in that multiverse, the 616 multiverse was nothing but stories published in a comic :
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I'll elaborate when I get home


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What does this mean? Is it somehow less to be fictional? And if so, why?


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Marvel does, or at least used to. It was in an issue of Quasar when an alt reality version of Anomaly Maelstrom knocked Quasar clear out of the mainstream multiverse and into a whole different one completely alien to the multiverse based on 616 reality. It was the New Universe multiverse and in that multiverse, the 616 multiverse was nothing but stories published in a comic :
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it's a cool fourth world breaking moment, too bad marvel didn't flesh it out and expand on it

that's just one layer view another as fiction. kinda like dc, the earth sbp from is kind of like real world

but Leviathan is beyond that, Wilson Taylor wrote a series where Tommy Taylor exists, a multiverse where mages can add entire dimensions to physical space, where there are magical hyperplanes. Wilson Taylor wrote the entire multiverse into existence. Wilson Taylor exists in the higher world compare to Tommy Taylor but the world Wilson exists in is also just a one level in the stack of cordwood in a barn

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stories told by stories made up by the stories to whom we are only stories.
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