I'd also go with Manhattan right now, mainly because even Mxy himself outright stated that he was operating on levels that were far above his own abilities.
And even if we assume Doomsday Clock is set before Lex had working knowledge of Perpetua, his statement still affirms that Manhattan is intended to be > Mxy(among many, many others.)
Well, I”m not sure why people are hyping up Mxy calling Manhattan more powerful than himself, but not Mxy calling the Brothers Three and Perpetua more powerful than himself.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
Yeah going by mxy statements I don't think there's anyone in comic book history apart from supreme beings of the companies (TOAA, Precense, Overvoid etc) that can challenge Doctor Manhattan
I'm very interested to see the last issue of Doomsday Clock, Hopefully superman doesn't beat him in direct combat because this will inadvertently result in lowballing of doctor manhattan and cause another shitstorm
Based on DM powerset I don’t know who could take him out. As long as the Quantum Field exists, he exists, basically he’s the consciousness of it. If you destroy that you basically destroy everything.
If Superman beats Manhattan(even if he dies in the process), the 'other side' will then try to argue that a single herald-level being can stomp all of DC.
...Cuz the whole of DC < Mxy < Manhattan < Superman = herald-level, you see.
Considering it’s been established multiple times, not just in DDC, but FInal Crisis and recent Justice League
Superman is the foundation of DC. When a being who can travel between two different multiverse can’t alter the core of Superman, it should establish what/who superman is
Here, Mxy is showing Morrison’s map of the DC Multiverse and explaining how the 5th dimension exists within DC as “the Blood of the Multiverse,” I.e. it is present on the Map as the Bleed. This is supported by Mxy’s statement that the integrity of the source wall has an immense effect on the 5th dimension/Mxy, as its destruction has been causing imagination to run wild/die.
Mxy says there is a sixth realm, and it is stated here and repeatedly throughout the current JL run how the sixth dimension is beyond imagination, and as Mxy describes it, the control room of the Multiverse, which again, Mxy says the 5th dimension is part of. This is further supported by the fact that the Monitors/Perpetua wield the Dimensional Superstructure, which is stated to “govern all things imaginable and unimaginable.” Mxy also very clearly says that only “the most powerful few beings” could exist in the Sixth Dimension before that moment, which he specifically narrows down to the Brothers Three and Perpetua. Mxy proceeds to say that the happenings of the Sixth Dimension are beyond his perception, and that he could only create a portal to the Sixth Dimension because the Source Wall was broken.
Essentially, Mxy is outright saying “I am not one of the most powerful few beings, but the Brothers Three and Perpetua are”
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
Like I said: never once does Mxy outright state that Perpetua and/or her children are more powerful than himself.
Their ability to access the 6th dimension more freely than Mxy certainly doesn't mean they are more powerful than him by default... Mxy's dealt with higher-dimensional beings just fine in the past(like Ultimator and The A, for example.)
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