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Batman vs Dazzler

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Comic fight, Batman 10/10. Forum fight, Dazzler 10/10.


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Batman shouldn't have any countermeasures for Dazzler, unless he has a specific pouch on his utility belt to deal with Dr. Light. But even then Dazzler has a surprisingly large bag of tricks, which Bruce's standard equipment shouldn't really have answers to.

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Interesting fight. Dazzler converts sound into energy blasts, right? Putting her up against one of the quietest combatants in comics - who manages to sneak past Superman and his hearing - would be a good fight.

I assume she can use her own sounds, like clapping/shouting? Otherwise, she has zero ways to actually get enough energy to hit Bats.

Who, meanwhile, has gas and tranqs that can knock her out.


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This isnt Batman being a ninja and sneaking around. Its a fight. He's going to make noise. Grunts, impacts, shouts, etc...

And his tranqs and gas have no way of getting past her forcefield which is made of lasers so if he touches it its like touching a lightsaber wall.

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With common knowledge (i.e. that she's a mutant who converts sound to light energy), the World's Greatest Detective would be pretty stupid to shout etc at her.

Especially as we know he's perfectly capable of attacking and moving with zero sound.

It's an interesting fight. Doubt that her forcefield blocks gas.... otherwise she chokes herself out with zero air lol.


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Interesting fight. Dazzler converts sound into energy blasts, right? Putting her up against one of the quietest combatants in comics - who manages to sneak past Superman and his hearing - would be a good fight.

I assume she can use her own sounds, like clapping/shouting? Otherwise, she has zero ways to actually get enough energy to hit Bats.

Who, meanwhile, has gas and tranqs that can knock her out.

Alison: "That's amazing! How can you move so quietly?"
Batman: "BECAUSE I'M BAtm..."
Batman: ???
Alison: "Thanks, mate." *proceeds to blow up Bruce into oblivion*

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Alison: "That's amazing! How can you move so quietly?"
Batman: "BECAUSE I'M BAtm..."
Batman: ???
Alison: "Thanks, mate." *proceeds to blow up Bruce into oblivion*


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Alison: "That's amazing! How can you move so quietly?"
Batman: "BECAUSE I'M BAtm..."
Batman: ???
Alison: "Thanks, mate." *proceeds to blow up Bruce into oblivion*


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Like Cyclops, Dazzler always carries a base level of charge with her. It's obviously not near her one-shot heralds state, but she's generally fight ready as a default. With the starting distance, stuff like her solid light clones and long ranged attacks will be a problem.

And she's accurate as ****, having shot directly into the barrel of a distant sniper rifle while recovering mid-air from its previous shot. She didn't know where it was beforehand either. Doesn't mean she can't miss, but we really don't get to talk about Dazzler all that much, so I feel like I gotta post something.
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I wonder if her little dazzle-hypnosis trick would work on Bruce?

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@Styletime
Dazzler is phucking awesome but she gets criminally overlooked in favor of more 'popular' characters like Wolverine or 'omega' level mutants like Jean.

ANNNNNNND you just gave me an idea for a cool thread involving her.


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Yeah, she's always "around", but doesn't headline as much as one would expect such a long time X-Man to.

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Like Cyclops, Dazzler always carries a base level of charge with her. It's obviously not near her one-shot heralds state, but she's generally fight ready as a default. With the starting distance, stuff like her solid light clones and long ranged attacks will be a problem.

And she's accurate as ****, having shot directly into the barrel of a distant sniper rifle while recovering mid-air from its previous shot. She didn't know where it was beforehand either. Doesn't mean she can't miss, but we really don't get to talk about Dazzler all that much, so I feel like I gotta post something.
https://postimg.cc/4HvmBQq8
https://postimg.cc/WhDyFfR6
https://postimg.cc/Vd3VjBmy


I wonder if her little dazzle-hypnosis trick would work on Bruce?


His cowl protects him against that; he's gone up against Vertigo before (no prep) and he just fights blind.


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Oh for sure. I knew his mask could defend against it, but I wondered if she could do it before he realizes what's happening. But, I guess basic knowledge means he knows light based shenanigans could come his way, so he'd be ready for it I'd imagine.

Blinding attacks probably won't work either.

On a side note, she used to call her blinding attack the Stroboscopic Flashbulb Dazzle-Blast. I'm not joking. Her attack names were wacky because the 80's. laughing out loud

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His cowl protects him against that; he's gone up against Vertigo before (no prep) and he just fights blind.
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Oh for sure. I knew his mask could defend against it, but I wondered if she could do it before he realizes what's happening. But, I guess basic knowledge means he knows light based shenanigans could come his way, so he'd be ready for it I'd imagine.

Blinding attacks probably won't work either.

On a side note, she used to call her blinding attack the Stroboscopic Flashbulb Dazzle-Blast. I'm not joking. Her attack names were wacky because the 80's. laughing out loud

Her light is so powerful, she partially blinded someone through googles specifically meant to block high intensity light :
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In a PIC/CISless fight, she ends him.


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She got charged up by the battle there....in a PIS/CIS less battle, she'd never get that sound to fire that blast off intime.


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Interesting fight. Dazzler converts sound into energy blasts, right? Putting her up against one of the quietest combatants in comics - who manages to sneak past Superman and his hearing - would be a good fight.

I assume she can use her own sounds, like clapping/shouting? Otherwise, she has zero ways to actually get enough energy to hit Bats.

Who, meanwhile, has gas and tranqs that can knock her out.


Dazzler is a female.

Women are loud and obnoxious, especially pop stars.

She beats Bruce without her powers.


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Her light is so powerful, she partially blinded someone through googles specifically meant to block high intensity light :
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In a PIC/CISless fight, she ends him.

True, but we've also seen technology completely filter out the light and block the blinding effect.
https://postimg.cc/5XKLYy4R
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I don't rule out that Batman could do it, considering the cowl has done similar before. Bruce conceivably has better tech than someone like Flame, who's glasses already blocked most of the effect.


Granted, I wasn't saying Batman wins. I'm just exploring Dazzler's more exotic options. There's not many interesting threads around at the moment, so we gotta make do. I'd be interested in how he deals with a giant, solid light dragon.
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Or how he'd proceed if Dazzler hid herself amongst a hologram army.
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Or used solid light clones.
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Ostensibly, they emit heat, so infrared vision shouldn't help much in the case of the clones.

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I SHALL TAKE YOU ON, STYLE!!

Mainly because as you said, most of the threads are boring these days.

But to find Dazzler, it's simple - he uses X-rays:
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Hard light constructs and a dragon? Special grenades (plus, scans show bonus feats of him against a guy who has better(?) feats than Dazzler:
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He can (I would!) not use the concussion bomb, as it would amp Dazzler - just follow up with a tranq or gas.


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Her light is so powerful, she partially blinded someone through googles specifically meant to block high intensity light :
In a PIC/CISless fight, she ends him.


I'm not talking about goggles that block high intensity light. I am talking about lenses that block ALL light - so he is blind (if needed):
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Then he is perfectly capable of fighting blind (bonus, he is fighting quietly):
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And again, mostly to show how much damage he can take if needed:
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And here he is, against a guy who has light construct powers (Batman didn't expect to fight, so had no prep; the guy was powerful enough to take down OMAC, August General in Iron and Guy Gardner):
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