PC Supermans powers were all over the place so its hard to say. Back then he was really vulnerable to magic and kryptonite. If Surfer can stay alive long enough to use his cosmic awareness he should be able to take him down with kryptonite rather easily.
Anyone know if Surfer can synthesize the odinforce without being close to Odin or Asgard? That might be another option if he can.
Sure Superman can do anything faster than Silver Surfer, who, afterall, is only capable of superceeding lightspeed and wields the power cosmic. In fact, I'm sure Superman would be able to hit Surfer pretty hard before his energy was drained and his body filled with kryptonite after being turned into a quivering heap with red sun energy. Seriously, Supes can be pretty tough (haha, but at least he can counter that with being so goddamn lame) but against someone like Surfer, who's practically designed to destroy him, El is almost as efficient as a deflated rubber duck.
Get a grip, people.
Originally posted by TulikaWhat good would any of that do against Anti-Cosmic Vision?
Sure Superman can do anything faster than Silver Surfer, who, afterall, is only capable of superceeding lightspeed and wields the power cosmic. In fact, I'm sure Superman would be able to hit Surfer pretty hard before his energy was drained and his body filled with kryptonite after being turned into a quivering heap with red sun energy. Seriously, Supes can be pretty tough (haha, but at least he can counter that with being so goddamn lame) but against someone like Surfer, who's practically designed to destroy him, El is almost as efficient as a deflated rubber duck.Get a grip, people.
Originally posted by TulikaHe'd vibrate between the rays of kryptonite radiation, in a space between this universe and the next, invent cosmic power catching device, and any power Surfer expelled would enter the machine and come out of the other side as Oscar Mayer hotdogs to feed starving children in Etheopia.
So, you're saying that Surfer radiating him with red star energy and kryptonite radiation wouldn't kill Superman just because he was "super?" Nu-uh.
Apperently you've never seen Pre Crisis Superman.
I agree, his powers were ridiculously vast and often written to match any problem at hand. But they never managed to write out his weaknesses, kryptonite and red star energy - and the matter of fact is that whereas Supes might've been able to otherwise match the Surfer, he still HAD weaknesses. Silverboy didn't and doesn't. They might be equal in all other aspects, but this is the main reason why even Pre-Crisis Superman doesn't stand a chance.
Thank god for the Crisis, though. Wasn't it Byrne who wrote Supes back into shape?
Originally posted by TulikaSupes can vibrate through the timestream instantly and kill him before he became surfer.
I agree, his powers were ridiculously vast and often written to match any problem at hand. But they never managed to write out his weaknesses, kryptonite and red star energy - and the matter of fact is that whereas Supes might've been able to otherwise match the Surfer, he still HAD weaknesses. Silverboy didn't and doesn't. They might be equal in all other aspects, but this is the main reason why even Pre-Crisis Superman doesn't stand a chance.Thank god for the Crisis, though. Wasn't it Byrne who wrote Supes back into shape?
And yes, it was Byrne.
I fully agree with Tulika. Supes sure was even more powerful back then, but still he couldn't resist kryptonite nor red star energy. Several times he had troubles coping with Metallo, and that was only because Metallo had kryptonite and possibility to fire kryptonite beams.
The fact remains: Supes is vulnerable to both kryptonite and red sun energy. Hence, Surfer has the advantage since immediately when he radiates Supes with kryptonite radiation the match is over. S has virtually no chance against SS.
Originally posted by TshernBut you're not considering Superman's ability to avoid this, as it has been shown to be in his powerset to vibrate out of tune with this reality and/or timestream, and move faster than the waves of radiation even if he stayed within it. He can be anywhere anywhen anytime he wants, without effort.
I fully agree with Tulika. Supes sure was even more powerful back then, but still he couldn't resist kryptonite nor red star energy. Several times he had troubles coping with Metallo, and that was only because Metallo had kryptonite and possibility to fire kryptonite beams.The fact remains: Supes is vulnerable to both kryptonite and red sun energy. Hence, Surfer has the advantage since immediately when he radiates Supes with kryptonite radiation the match is over. S has virtually no chance against SS.
Is Supes able to fight in that state? Yeah, probably not.
Originally posted by Answers.com
By using his board (see below) to exceed 99% of the speed of light (186,000 miles per second), the Surfer can shift himself into hyperspace, a dimension in which velocity is not limited by the speed of light. The Surfer can also compress his own bodily matter so as to shift himself into a so-called microverse. Additionally, he can phase his body's molecules to pass through solid matter or energy. He once used his powers to travel through time, but may be unable to engage in time travel under normal circumstances.
And from that you can see that Superman isn't the only one able to travel in time. So if Silver Surfer isn't able to inflict any damage, then Supes is not able to inflict any damage. Of course they just could travel in time and kill each other before they got their powers.
How Supes possibly could kill Silver Surfer? By freezing or melting him? Give me a break.