Galactus wins, his powers are about those of an abstract when he is fullpowered. Imperiex is just a though guy on a suit, he has no chance.
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Besides, Galactus is an actual character and not a horrible misplaced/miswritten plot device entirely created to make Supes look cool. Ok, there, I said it.
Superman needed to merge with Dc's Eternity called Kismet and they also needed the aid of the Omega Effect and an Alien Armada to crack Imperiex's armor.
Yes, I know all that, but the feeling I get from Kismet is that while a Guardian from eternity bound to reality itself, its not nearly as strong as an abstract. You see, Galactus is needed to keep the balance of the universe as much as any of the abstracts, but that doesnt mean that he is in fact as strong as them; we know for a fact that when he is not well-fed he is in fact weaker, meaning that being bound to reality itself, while an important position, doesnt necesarily means you have an abstract level of power.
Regarding the alien armada, Thannos took one by himself. The Omega Effect has been resisted by the Surfer (I'm stating things that had been posted before). I dont mean to say they arent awesome feats, Imperiex IS very powerful and difficult to handle. But I still think that Galactus well fed is stronger than that, he also has better feats.
Surfer only took the omega Beam which instantly Ko'd him if I remeber correctly he was dying or something.The Omega Effect has pretty high showings like hurting a weakend Anti-Monitor.Anyway that was a non canon crossover.
Don't forget that all those things that they have done(Kismet Superman attacking him Omega Effect etc etc)
Didn't destroy Imperiex only cracked his armor the energy unleashed was somehow absorbed by Braniac 13 which seems pretty stupid since it was a Big Bang
I wouldn't agree with that since Galactus's best showing is destroying a Universe.Imperiex has been shown to release the Big Bang numerous times which has also destroyed the Universe and also recreated it. If I remember correctly Imperiex's purpose to the destroy the Universe was in a Multi-Versal scale.
Galactus survived the destruction of the universe, that means he can take the best we've seen from Imperiex.
I agree that Imperiex has an awesome destructive power, but everything that was needed to crack his armor while devastating, its only powerful under certain frameworks. If anything has survived the Omega Effect, then we know it has some limits; I already mentioned why Kismet doesnt seem somewhat limited to me, which only adds to my doubt if power Imperiex was all that big; the alien army could've been very powerful or not, to really judge the whole power of the combined attack we need to look at other feats.
Also, Imperiex seems like a rather mundane being to me, it strikes me as someone who while strong is really limited. Galactus is in balance with the very universe, it is the kind of behavior that you expect to have from a real higher power. If Imperiex was a higher power, he wouldnt have been stopped and thats that, something would've happened by the balance broken such as when Galactus was killed. This little paragraph has more to do with the way characters are written than the actual things we've seen from there, so I dont mean for it to be a valid point in the argument.
Galactus did not survive a big bang. A higher power, the Phoenix Force preserved him through it.
Anyway, Imperiex is an energy being not unlike though much weaker than a Celestial. Galactus can eat a Celestial, at least the energy in one's armor. Galactus can just chow down on Imperiex.
Unless he trips of a stray asteroid and brains himself on that retarded helmet...
Galactus ftw.
__________________ Among the tales of sorrow and of ruin that come down to us from the darkness of those days there are yet some in which amid weeping there is joy and under the shadow of death light that endures.
J.R.R. Tolkien, "Of Beren and Luthien" from the Silmarilion
Hey, Galactus existed (in some form) before the Big Bang, right? Galactus is alive now, right? How is that not "Galactus survived the "Big Bang"?
Yeah, I know, you probably thought meant "by himself". It did sound like that right? (and it was meant like that, I'm just trying to sound funny and failing miserably in doing so)
It would be easier than you think. Unchecked, Galactus can allow his hunger to consume opponents as an offensive tactic. He killed the renegade celestial this way, all of the elders of the universe simultaneously, (except for the collector, I think..who wasn't present for some reason) Threatened to consume mephisto's entire dimension (and mephisto was running scared of it), and it's been SAID it could consume 616 as well, though obviously this has never been demonstrated.
The BIG difference between galactus and imperiex is that Galactus is NOT evil, and keeps a great deal of his power contained as he doesn't consume or kill indescriminately. That big costume of his is largely there to regulate his power and keep it from getting out of hand. Galactus can consume/destroy planets under his own power. He created a ship (TAA II) That's the size of an entire galaxy. He could easily destroy an object of that size as well, again under his own power. He's IMMUNE to the omega effect.
Imperiex does not have this issue, and did everything he could to destroy the DC universe. He needed to make use of a "hollower" device to attempt to destroy DC earth, and it can reasonably be assumed he was going all out in his showings.
Galactus takes this more often than not.
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In what issue did this happen?
Phoenix preserving or saving Galactus?
I agree.
Galactus wasn't even Full Power during the Black Celestial arc and he took down a Universe, and if he wouldn't have stopped himself he would have absorbed the Multi-verse.
And who knows if even that would have given him his Full Power.
It is true that we have never seen Galactus trying to achieve something no matter what, his potential is unknown and because of that some people read that its not as high as (at least I think) it is.
What are you talking about?
Imperiex wasn't evil he thought that it was his purpose to release the Big bang and at the end he did it under his own power he didn't need anything to do it.
To be fair, this is also because there are some inexplicable low showings out there as well that exist only to give certain characters (I'm looking at you, Thor) good showings.
At his debut, Galactus was Tied with eternity and death as essential, irresistable force of the universe. He's been bumped down considerably since then due to the whims of one writer or another, and as such his power fluctuates quite a bit depending on how "hungry" he is at the time.
But I agree with Mr. Master. As far as good showings go, "black celestial arc" galactus is probably as close as we're going to see a true "full power galactus."
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