The de-construction of Here Comes Tomorrow ... the final debate!
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This thread concerns the arc titled: "Here Comes Tomorrow" 

which took place in New X-Men across four issues: #151 - 154.

The arc officially began in the last two pages of #150. (150 years in the future)


The purpose of this discussion is to finalize debates
that have literally been going on for years,
it will center around Jean Grey, 

but the arc alone forces several disputes about the events that took place withIN,

and even raises controversy concerning its very canonicity.


With MY courteous Opinion!!!


I will present all the relevant scans/info from the arc, 

plus various relevant scans/info from the preceding arc which conflicts with HCT,

in addition, 

I will also bring forth scans/info from Jean Grey's participation
in her following arc as well,
which again, conflicts with the nature of HCT.


Finally, besides On Panel evidence, 

I will also use info from official Handbooks,
and official Marvel sponsored sites,

that relate to HCT directly or in one form or another,

and I will ultimately display what unofficial sources have to say about HCT.


I want to use every source possible that has indulged in HCT,

this way we get a strict but also broad view from all corners.

(basically I don't want to leave one stone unturned)


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The three main questions that we will inquire about are:


1. Where did "Here Comes Tomorrow" take place, 

was it in 616, was it in an Alternate Future reality,
or was it an imaginary story?

2. What version of Jean Grey was involved in HCT,

was it 616 Jean Grey, 

or was it an Alternate Jean that later became the so-called "White Crown" Phoenix,

or does it even matter since it's an imaginary story?


3. Is Here Comes Tomorrow even canon, to 616, or to Alternate Realities, or at all?


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Ok, now that I got the introduction out of the way,

here's the WARNING approved by Badabing. (Moderator)


Anyone, no exception including myself, 

decides to enter this thread in order to insult anyone,
gets Reported
no questions asked, insult again,
get Reported again, 


Anyone, tries to post some sanctimonious babble
trying to demean the understanding of another poster, gets Reported

no questions asked, and so on, and so on like stated above.


Anyone, tries to fallaciously claim that I hate Phoenix, 

because I'm respectfully opening a dialogue concerning this arc,

or decides to suggest that someone else hates Phoenix 

because they agree with what they perceive to be valid/logical evidence/sense,

gets Reported
no questions asked, and so on like stated above.
Badabing has also made it official,
said reasons for Reporting will not just be overlooked,
said Posts, that force said Reports, will be DELETED.
This way,
all who are of spite mind
and wish to have their insults or what have you read,
will be sorely disappointed.


Everyone is free to participate and post their own opinions based on the evidence,

everyone is free to post their own evidence,
and formulate an opinion from there,

everyone is free to ask for more material evidence if necessary,
and if applicable,

everyone is encouraged to submit their two cents, 

but please read over the material meticulously, or present your own material, 

and give a reason (if you can) what your opinion is based on.



Those are the rules concerning warnings that pertain to this thread,

the other KMC rules, of course also apply.


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That's all ... let's get started. 🙂
