Diamond Emma Frost vs Captain America
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Emma's stuck in Diamond Form. (No telepathy regardless of whether she can or can't use it in this form.)
Fight#1 : Captain America doesn't have his shield.
Fight#2 : Captain America gets his shield.
Can Captain America do what Danger couldn't?
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned09oo2pj4.jpg
Oh and the fight takes place in a sumo wrestling sized arena surrounded with an adamantium steal cage.
er, no . . . in either fight.
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course, i fail to see how she'll actually hit him if he makes an effort of trying to avoid her given her somewhat ltd h2h skills. i know she has level level of super strength, but i think the actual extent is still unknown, correct? does she have any feats to gauge her strength by?
can't see either winning this to be honest. 😬
Originally posted by leonidas
er, no . . . in either fight.😕
course, i fail to see how she'll actually hit him if he makes an effort of trying to avoid her given her somewhat ltd h2h skills. i know she has level level of super strength, but i think the actual extent is still unknown, correct? does she have any feats to gauge her strength by?
can't see either winning this to be honest. 😬
I take it you think I lost my mind? 😛
I was skimming over the Colossus, Luke Cage vs Capt threads. 😬
Being first and foremost a telepath makes super strength kind of redundant so she doesn't have many displays of strength.
However the thing about her, is that in her Diamond Form her mass doesn't change. So she can pretty much get flung around.
Here's an instance where she takes on Sage and Bishop. Given the circumstances she wasn't trying to kill them. She was trying to kick them out of her school. The blood eye thing is unique to the story(Elias Bogans work) and too Claremont complicated to explain. Besides the bleeding occured first in her human form and then continued on into her diamond form.
I have more, I'll post one of her really low showings as well hold on.
Her Diamond Form is something that's very inconsistent:
Super Strength vs No Super Strength
Increased Mass vs Same Mass
Immune to Telepathy vs Able to use telepathy in that form.
Diamond Skin vs Diamond Form.
Diamond Blood vs No blood or Organs whatsoever.
Originally posted by leonidas
so . . .you HAVE lost your mind . . .?
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It's a possibility...I was just reading some of the stuff being brought up in both those previous threads, some of it didn't settle well.
Anyway here's the rest of the stuff. Warning the inconsistency is brain wrecking.
You could have just posted a link to the respect thread?
Anyways....
"Captian Amerrika hrut NAMOR!!!11 He wtfpwzaorz Emma!!!11"
Seriously, though....if there is something special about Vibranium that bypasses Emma's form (as it appears to be in the scan you posted of the woman stabbing her), I could see Captain America's Vibranium/Steel shield doing quite a bit of damage.
Originally posted by Soljer
You could have just posted a link to the respect thread?Anyways....
"Captian Amerrika hrut NAMOR!!!11 He wtfpwzaorz Emma!!!11"
Seriously, though....if there is something special about Vibranium that bypasses Emma's form (as it appears to be in the scan you posted of the woman stabbing her), I could see Captain America's Vibranium/Steel shield doing quite a bit of damage.
Those scans aren't in her respect thread. 😛
Thing is, that's the argument I would use, to make this thread seem less spitish. Because I do realize Capt is the underdog here. But apparently his feats against class 80's and 100's make him a decent match.
However the validity of the scan is questionable. Since a women of the same height and build managed to pin down Emma Frost when she's exhibited super strength in her diamond form the most recent case occurred two issues before that incident in the same arc.(The Handbook places her at 5 but we all know how Handbooks work on these forums).
Also she was apparently impenetrable according to Dangers analysis which forced Danger to use black mail to take Diamond Emma down. And that's where the whole continuity thing comes into play.
I really want to know how a inconsistent low end feat like that works on these forums? When it contradicts another feat. New X-Men vs Astonishing X-Men. And even though we have 4 Super Strength instances vs 1 No Super Strength instance. We only have 1 Impenetrable instance vs 1 penetrable instance. And even then the circumstances are a bit dodgy.
Anyway if it's any consolation that blade was designed by files taken from Nimrods database.
I dunno, if I recall correctly, Danger wasn't made out of Vibranium, so from Danger's point of view, Emma WOULD be impenetrable.
However, I'd agree that a normal woman pinning Emma is a bit of PIS. BUT - that alone doesn't make the entire thing PIS.
One part of a feat being invalid does not necessarily question the validity of the rest of it, if you understand what I mean.
Originally posted by Soljer
I dunno, if I recall correctly, Danger wasn't made out of Vibranium, so from Danger's point of view, Emma WOULD be impenetrable.However, I'd agree that a normal woman pinning Emma is a bit of PIS. BUT - that alone doesn't make the entire thing PIS.
One part of a feat being invalid does not necessarily question the validity of the rest of it, if you understand what I mean.
I think Danger, spending years studying the X-men, would have identified the vibranium weakness in Emma, if it was there, thus equipping herself with it, but she didn't. Which is why I believe it to be PSI.
mainly I just don't like seeing Emma having a weakness in her diamond form 😛
Originally posted by What If...
I think Danger, spending years studying the X-men, would have identified the vibranium weakness in Emma, if it was there, thus equipping herself with it, but she didn't. Which is why I believe it to be PSI.mainly I just don't like seeing Emma having a weakness in her diamond form 😛
Why do you keep saying pressure per square inch? That's twice now, 😛.
Anyways - if Emma never encountered Vibranium before, while Danger WAS studying the X-Men, how would Danger have recognized this or cataloged it?
Originally posted by Soljer
I dunno, if I recall correctly, Danger wasn't made out of Vibranium, so from Danger's point of view, Emma WOULD be impenetrable.However, I'd agree that a normal woman pinning Emma is a bit of PIS. BUT - that alone doesn't make the entire thing PIS.
One part of a feat being invalid does not necessarily question the validity of the rest of it, if you understand what I mean.
I understand. But since Danger(Shiar Tech) = The Danger Room and since she's able to replicate a wide array of offensive and defensive weapons with her body it could be seen as PIS since the Danger Room has replicated Wolverines claws on more then one occassion.
BTW None of the X-Men were able to break into the Danger Room when they were locked out of it because it's made from a special alloy. 😬
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9153/untitledscanned09qi1.jpg
Dangers also able to alter her body in this manner:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7240/untitledscanned07eg2.jpg
