Re: What makes the Bible true?
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?
I believe that this thread should be moved to the "Circular Reasoning" thread.
The Bible explain's everything. The Bible itself is the truth. The bible is a mass biblyography of Jesus's life. There is no other book in History that can explain event for even the bible does. How it has happen. The Bible is a Book about how jesus was viewed through the eye's of thousand's and the miracles that he performed. God is the way.
Re: What makes the Bible true?
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?
I was raised to believe that I should always think for myself, that I should discern fantasy from reality, that violence is not something that should be glorified, and that God is greater than our ability to describe in words or to limit with ideas. For these reasons, I do not accept the Bible as a unique authority on God or any other subject. That does not mean that I dismiss it entirely, however.
To begin with, I will not accept anything just because it is written in the Bible. As far as I am concerned the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament from the Christian point of view) is a collection of the tribal legends, historical records, and religious writings of the ancient Hebrews. I am a modern man - not an ancient Hebrew. Therefore, my entire worldview is informed by scientific data and cultural assumptions that are extremely far removed from those of the ancient Hebrews. Unlike them, just to name a few examples, I am convinced that this universe is billions of years old; that life as it now appears on Earth is part of an ongoing process of evolution; that different languages and dialects developed over time; that it is not an abomination to eat pork, shrimp, or lobster, or to mix beef and dairy products; that slavery is immoral; that it is immoral to execute disrespectful children; and that one is never justified in committing genocide or ethnic cleansing. The ancient Hebrews, however, were ignorant of modern astrophysics, ignorant of geology, ignorant of the fossil record and carbon dating, they believed that all of the existing language groups originated from God's curse at the tower of Babel, they believed that it is an abomination to eat certain kinds of foods or to prepare foods in certain ways, they believed that disrespect to God or one's parent's is a capital offense, they practiced slavery, and they believed that God had commanded them to kill every man, woman, and child in certain towns during the conquest of the promised land (in other cases the men and boys were killed and the woman and girls enslaved). So, for scientific and moral reasons I do not view the Bible as an authority.
The Bible is not a revelation from God, rather it is a compilation, a fairly untidy compilation, written by many different people, over many centuries, changed and edited from time to time, and containing legends, stories, genealogies, fables, sacred and secular writings. It is no more a revelation from God than are the Iliad or the Odyssey, the Ramayana or the Mahabharata, books which the Bible resembles quite closely.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
The Bible explain's everything.
No it doesn't. ❌
It doesn't explain the existance of the dinosaurs, it doesn't explain science or mathematics, it doesn't explain the creation of the entire Universe, it doesn't explain WHY God is male and not female if he is the true creator, it doesn't explain how Angels can mate with humans, it doesn't explain what exactly angels are, etc.etc.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
The Bible itself is the truth. The bible is a mass biblyography of Jesus's life.
WRONG 👇
Only the Gospels are depictions of Jesus' life. The rest of the Bible doesn't cover Jesus Christ, and the ENTIRE Old Testament doesn't even MENTION Jesus Christ.
You don't know what the f*ck you're talkn about, do you ?
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
There is no other book in History that can explain event for even the bible does.
What exactly are you trying to say here? This sentence makes no grammatical sense.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
How it has happen. The Bible is a Book about how jesus was viewed through the eye's of thousand's and the miracles that he performed. God is the way.
Prove it...there is no proof. The Bible is just as valid as the Quran, the Book of the Dead, and other mythological texts.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenNor does it explain what religion is.
No it doesn't. ❌It doesn't explain the existance of the dinosaurs, it doesn't explain science or mathematics, it doesn't explain the creation of the entire Universe, it doesn't explain WHY God is male and not female if he is the true creator, it doesn't explain how Angels can mate with humans, it doesn't explain what exactly angels are, etc.etc.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenI don't think that's what you meant.
[b]WRONG 👇Only the Gospels are depictions of Jesus' life. The rest of the Bible doesn't cover Jesus Christ, and the ENTIRE Old Testament doesn't even MENTION Jesus Christ.
You don't know what the f*ck you're talkn about, do you ? [/B]
Originally posted by Lord UrizenI think he's trying to say the Bible is the only recourse to prove the existance of Jesus and God.
What exactly are you trying to say here? This sentence makes no grammatical sense.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenThat's what I've always said.
Prove it...there is no proof. The Bible is just as valid as the Quran, the Book of the Dead, and other mythological texts.
Hmm, I still haven't got ana answer to my question.
Re: What makes the Bible true?
Originally posted by lord xyzThe Bible is true because it says so.......... 😛
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?
Isn't that the whole point of Religion? To believe in something that's important to yourself? The Bible isn't necessarily fact but it's also not necessarily fiction; no one knows, if people want to take it as fact I have no problem with that.
Originally posted by §P0oONYBut why believe in something that's outside the laws of Science?
Isn't that the whole point of Religion? To believe in something that's important to yourself? The Bible isn't necessarily fact but it's also not necessarily fiction; no one knows, if people want to take it as fact I have no problem with that.