What makes the Bible true?

Started by xmarksthespot8 pages

Originally posted by sonnet
No, it is based upon the fact that God is true and His Word is Truth, and His spirit in me confirms it. You do not have the spirit of God within you, so to you it is foolish.
Prattle. "You're not Christian so you just don't understand my fascistic views of my hypocritical dictator deity."
Originally posted by sonnet
So if I give you a note telling you that you need to go to school on Saturday because the principle told me so then you are not going to show up and will give the principle the argument that you did not believe me because I gave you my opinion of what he suposedly told me. Yeah right!! This "opinion" argument is getting a bit boring!!!!
Your analogy is flawed. The Principal didn't tell you anything. You found something written years ago by someone who claims the Principal told him to write it with nothing to substantiate that 1) he was writing under the sanction of the Principal, 2) the person he believed to be the Principal actually was, 3) he correctly ascertained the Principal's instructions and 4) that the Principal even exists. To top off all that speculation, the only thing that leads you to believe the note even says to go to school on Saturday is your own personal interpretation of this supposedly already second hand highly outdated instruction.

So no I'd probably tell you to piss off and don't come back unless you can bring me some substantial and verifiable reason to waste my Saturday; and then go see a movie. The schoolyard scenario does however exemplify a simplistic childish view of the world though so bravo.

..When did the Earth all of a sudden become 6000 years old?

Originally posted by office jesus
..When did the Earth all of a sudden become 6000 years old?
About the same time evolution was taught in America.

Originally posted by sonnet
You have just proven it yourself!!! 😆

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Oh sh*t ! That's hilarious ! I didnt know an uptight Conservative Fundamentalist can be funny !

You sure know how to throw good insults Sonnet ! Congrats !

But seriously now....you don't know a thing about me. And you are making quite an accusation, "Your mind is corrupted by Satan"

If my mind was truly corrupted by your mythical devil, wouldn't I go around killing and torturing people ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen

But seriously now....you don't know a thing about me. And you are making quite an accusation, [b]"Your mind is corrupted by Satan"
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You call everyone who disagrees with you sad.

Hypocrite. tongue_ss

Not only that but you call everyone else a hypocrite even when they aren't showing signs of hypocrisy.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You call everyone who disagrees with you sad.

Hypocrite. tongue_ss

Not only that but you call everyone else a hypocrite even when they aren't showing signs of hypocrisy.

I didn't call him sad. WTF are you talking about ?

I call people hypocrits when hypocrisy is there. If you cannot see that, then that is your problem not mine.

Change your SIG ! It's stupid !

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Prattle. "You're not Christian so you just don't understand my fascistic views of my hypocritical dictator deity." Your analogy is flawed. The Principal didn't tell you anything. You found something written years ago by someone who claims the Principal told him to write it with nothing to substantiate that 1) he was writing under the sanction of the Principal, 2) the person he believed to be the Principal actually was, 3) he correctly ascertained the Principal's instructions and 4) that the Principal even exists. To top off all that speculation, the only thing that leads you to believe the note even says to go to school on Saturday is your own personal interpretation of this supposedly already second hand highly outdated instruction.

So no I'd probably tell you to piss off and don't come back unless you can bring me some substantial and verifiable reason to waste my Saturday; and then go see a movie. The schoolyard scenario does however exemplify a simplistic childish view of the world though so bravo.


Spoken like a true fool. You are without God and His spirit. You are a part of Satan's plan to TRY and discredit God, but Jesus already got the victory on the cross. But you are not part of that victory because you decided that He is only a myth. You have convinced yourself that you have a more to live for than serving God and that there must be more to our life here on earth. You are so conceited that you even think that you have the right to judge God and His Word! "Intellectual" debates and philosophies won't get you closer to finding God or being part of His Kingdom.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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Oh sh*t ! That's hilarious ! I didnt know an uptight Conservative Fundamentalist can be funny !

You sure know how to throw good insults Sonnet ! Congrats !

But seriously now....you don't know a thing about me. And you are making quite an accusation, [b]"Your mind is corrupted by Satan"

If my mind was truly corrupted by your mythical devil, wouldn't I go around killing and torturing people ? [/B]


And you think that evil will only cause you to commit crimes? No it causes you to disobey God, to blaspheme against God, to curse God, to reject God (and Jesus and the Holy Spirit ). Satan's greatest accomplishment and purpose is to get us to reject God and Jesus all while he torments the people with sickness, loss, death, destruction, etc. and most of the time he uses us to work his evil plans and people so willingly play along for they feel so intellectually advanced today..... they even blame God for their problems. And I do not intend to insult...I only return the "favour".

Originally posted by sonnet
Spoken like a true fool.
Spoken like a true religious fundamentalist zealot. You have absolutely no counter argument and instead rely on spouting meaningless rhetoric about gods, spirits, fire, brimstone, heathens and so on.
Originally posted by sonnet
You are without God and His spirit.
You're blinded by your faith and fascistically seek to impose the tenets of that faith on others. If that's god and his spirit I'm quite glad he's not in me.
Originally posted by sonnet
You are a part of Satan's plan to TRY and discredit God, but Jesus already got the victory on the cross.
One mythological figure cannot plan to discredit another, but satan need not discredit anything, credibility and religion are not friends.
Originally posted by sonnet
But you are not part of that victory because you decided that He is only a myth.
Yeah, that might bother me iff it wasn't only a myth.
Originally posted by sonnet
You have convinced yourself that you have a more to live for than serving God and that there must be more to our life here on earth.
You've convinced yourself that the only thing that gives life meaning are your personal religious views, and the only thing that anyone should live by is your religion.
Originally posted by sonnet
You are so conceited that you even think that you have the right to judge God and His Word!
You're mindless enough to be credulous to anything related to Christianity, the Bible or your fictional god. You lack the ability to question critically your own views.
Originally posted by sonnet
"Intellectual" debates and philosophies won't get you closer to finding God or being part of His Kingdom.
I have no desire to find god. Intellectual debate doesn't seem to be your strong suit, so you really serve no purpose here. No amount of condemning others is going to make your fictional god a reality.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're mindless enough to be credulous to anything related to Christianity, the Bible or your fictional god. You lack the ability to question critically your own views.
I have no desire to find god. Intellectual debate doesn't seem to be your strong suit, so you really serve no purpose here. No amount of condemning others is going to make your fictional god a reality.

I have no desire or intention to question my views as God is truth and His Word is truth. As long as I obey God and His Word there is nothing that this world can offer me that would change my life for the better.
And yes you surely have no desire to find God as you have already found your god, Satan. Your life and reasoning give credit to him whether you believe in him or not.

Originally posted by sonnet
I have no desire or intention to question my views as God is truth and His Word is truth. As long as I obey God and His Word there is nothing that this world can offer me that would change my life for the better.
And yes you surely have no desire to find God as you have already found your god, Satan. Your life and reasoning give credit to him whether you believe in him or not.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Spoken like a true religious fundamentalist zealot. You have absolutely no counter argument and instead rely on spouting meaningless rhetoric about gods, spirits, fire, brimstone, heathens and so on.

Intellectual debate doesn't seem to be your strong suit, so you really serve no purpose here. No amount of condemning others is going to make your fictional god a reality.

Originally posted by sonnet
And you think that evil will only cause you to commit crimes?

Not always...but at the least, hurt people.

Originally posted by sonnet
No it causes you to disobey God, to blaspheme against God, to curse God, to reject God (and Jesus and the Holy Spirit ).

yawn

Why is it evil to disregard a fictional character ? When you were young, I'm sure you stopped beleiving in Santa Clause...by your own logic, you are evil for that.

Originally posted by sonnet
Satan's greatest accomplishment and purpose is to get us to reject God and Jesus all while he torments the people with sickness, loss, death, destruction, etc.

Really ? That's horrible !

However, according to the Bible God has had his fair share of sending people sickness (the plagues), loss (see death) death (he sent the angel of death to kill all the first born sons of Egypt), and destruction (the cities of sodom and gomorrha)

Originally posted by sonnet
....and most of the time he uses us to work his evil plans and people so willingly play along for they feel so intellectually advanced today.....

Oh yes, it is so evil to teach tolerance of our differences, love and unity. 🙄

Originally posted by sonnet
they even blame God for their problems.

I don't blame your God for anything ❌ Until it is proven that he exists, I will blame him for nothing.

Originally posted by sonnet
And I do not intend to insult...I only return the "favour".

Because of your closed minded zealotry and poorly disguised bigotry, I think you are an insult to your own God.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I didn't call him sad. WTF are you talking about ?

I call people hypocrits when hypocrisy is there. If you cannot see that, then that is your problem not mine.

Change your SIG ! It's stupid !

Oh My... How dumb... I'm not even gonna ask, you'll probably just quote this and post the droolio smilie like you always do.

Sometimes people on the same side should get along better.

Originally posted by Alliance
Sometimes people on the same side should get along better.
Not when their bringing your side of the arument down. I mean, great that Urizen's an atheist and all, but his debating tactics...I mean, calling people sad, his philosophy that religious people are sad and don't even know their own religion, the fact that he wants to have sex with Jesus.

Re: What makes the Bible true?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think anyone has ever even answered this (without using the Bible itself as a reference). Why? If someone here is very devoted to the Bible, and see it as fact, could you tell me how it is fact?

What makes the bible true:

1. The earth is spherical(the bible says before science was thought of)

2. Man is made from the same type of stuff as earth. (God made man out of earth)

3. Earth is hung in nothing (The bible says before science even was though of)

4. Water has Oxygen particles in it. (God seperated the sky from the sea)

there's more, i just need to remember them. 😄

Re: Re: What makes the Bible true?

Originally posted by Emo?
The earth is spherical(the bible says before science was thought of)

Where does the bible say this?
Originally posted by Emo?
Man is made from the same type of stuff as earth. (God made man out of earth)

How is god's clay scientific?

Originally posted by Emo?
Earth is hung in nothing (The bible says before science even was though of)

No, the Earth rests on four pillars.
Originally posted by Emo?
Water has Oxygen particles in it. (God seperated the sky from the sea)

Air is 70% Nitrogen. Water does not have "oxygen particles in it" Oxygen is contained in a great many substances. Oxygen atoms are NOT Oxygen gas. Not to mention there is water in the atmosphere so your god did a crappy job on his separations.

Besides this was an Aristotelian idea, nothing special about it besides its wrong.

Originally posted by lord xyz
About the same time evolution was taught in America.

Ah. That explains it. Silly Christians.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Not when their bringing your side of the arument down. I mean, great that Urizen's an atheist and all, but his debating tactics...I mean, calling people sad, his philosophy that religious people are sad and don't even know their own religion, the fact that he wants to have sex with Jesus.

I will agree that I definitely do not agree with his debating tactics but then again I think LU has made it clear that he has a huge problem with Christianity.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Because of your closed minded zealotry and poorly disguised bigotry, I think you are an insult to your own God.

Well what you think I am is of no relevance to God for I am His child and part of His Kingdom and that is all that realy matters to me. I would be an insult to God if i went about questioning His authority and laws and His existance but I do not.