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Bane vs Sidious
Ok, feats CAN NOT be applied here. No saying that Sidious did a whole bunch of **** with the Clone Wars. We all know he did, it dosnt matter.
What im interested in, is how they explained their power in 1. lightsaber combat. 2. Force affinity. 3. A duel. Thats it, only those 3, no manipulations. AND NO SIDIOUS/BANE FANBOYISM
Sidious wins, he according to several sources is the most powerful sith lord in history
Power doesn't always equal a win, and it especially won't equal one here.
and has demonstrated more devastating dark side power.
I disagree, Bane has matched him in lightning and telekinetic powers. All Sidious has going for him is his mental powers, which Bane has in fact demonstrated a high level of resistance to.
Sidious wins, ifwhen Sidious breaks through Bane's saber defense
I disagree again. It will take alot for Sidious to trump Bane in pure blade-to-blade combat, seeing as Bane arguably has more skill in that area and has displayed comparable speed. The Orbalisks also ad a considerable advantage to Bane.
a simple jolt of lightning, and Bane's out for the count.
Not only has Sidious never displayed the ability to utilize lightning mid-combat, but it requires a hell of a lot to overcome Banes orbalisks- an excess of a million volts, so its doubtful Sidious could do so simply or without effort.
It really should be specified what Bane and Sidious this is. A Revenge Sidious would probably tie with A Rule of two Bane, but a Dark Empire Sidious would possibly edge it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Power doesn't always equal a win, and it especially won't equal one here.
I disagree, Bane has matched him in lightning and telekinetic powers. All Sidious has going for him is his mental powers, which Bane has in fact demonstrated a high level of resistance to.
I disagree again. It will take alot for Sidious to trump Bane in pure blade-to-blade combat, seeing as Bane arguably has more skill in that area and has displayed comparable speed. The Orbalisks also ad a considerable advantage to Bane.
Not only has Sidious never displayed the ability to utilize lightning mid-combat, but it requires a hell of a lot to overcome Banes orbalisks- an excess of a million volts, so its doubtful Sidious could do so simply or without effort.
It really should be specified what Bane and Sidious this is. A Revenge Sidious would probably tie with A Rule of two Bane, but a Dark Empire Sidious would possibly edge it.
Originally posted by NephthysEither power, skill, or mastery does. Sidious has them all.
Power doesn't always equal a win, and it especially won't equal one here.
I disagree, Bane has matched him in lightning and telekinetic powers. All Sidious has going for him is his mental powers, which Bane has in fact demonstrated a high level of resistance to.
During Sidious' sithisis ritual he reduced a giant sith worm to ash with lightning (note: this was about months prior to ROTS). After Vader's fight with Maul, Sidious reduced three highly trained dark prophets to charred bone, at the same time, and using only one hand. While dying and unable to call upon his full power, Sidious was able to put Leia on her ass, mortally wound Brand (even protected with armor), and Instantly kill Rayf with lightning.
Sidious has also demonstrated great control over his lightning. He took out maybe over 40 stormtroopers with lightning, while controling the bolts to go around his royal guards.
Sidious was incredible with TK. Not only was he able to levitate and throw senate pods with great speed and ease, but he also ripped them out of durasteel restraints like ripping leaves from a tree. Sidious also disintigrated a lightsaber with the wave of his hand.
I disagree again. It will take alot for Sidious to trump Bane in pure blade-to-blade combat, seeing as Bane arguably has more skill in that area and has displayed comparable speed. The Orbalisks also ad a considerable advantage to Bane.Prove Bane's skill is above Sidious'. Sidious did kill some four of the best swordsmen the jedi order ever produced, in seconds. He then went on to force Windu back, a jedi who was fast enough to land six blows to Vastor before Vastor could blink, and strong enough to tear battle droids with his bare hands. Don't forget that Sidious matched Yoda in speed and skill with the blade.
Not only has Sidious never displayed the ability to utilize lightning mid-combat, but it requires a hell of a lot to overcome Banes orbalisks- an excess of a million volts, so its doubtful Sidious could do so simply or without effort.Far lesser beings have shown to utilize lightning in mid-combat, such as one of Krayts minions (her name's at the tip of my tongue), but you're telling me Sidious, who is a far more powerful and skilled user of the technique, could not?
While Bane can take an awful lot with his orbalisk, Sidious too can take a lot of blows. During his contest with Galen, Sidious took a full force explosion, and seemed to be unharmed by it. In DE Leia tried to kill Sidious by dropping a cooling unit on him, who "shrugged off the crushing impact of over a ton of machinery." Also during his fight with Windu, Sidious took the full affects of his own lightning without being weakened at all.
It really should be specified what Bane and Sidious this is. A Revenge Sidious would probably tie with A Rule of two Bane, but a Dark Empire Sidious would possibly edge it.Both are superior to Bane.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Far lesser beings have shown to utilize lightning in mid-combat, such as one of Krayts minions (her name's at the tip of my tongue)
Darth Talon.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
While Bane can take an awful lot with his orbalisk, Sidious too can take a lot of blows. During his contest with Galen, Sidious took a full force explosion, and seemed to be unharmed by it. In DE Leia tried to kill Sidious by dropping a cooling unit on him, who "shrugged off the crushing impact of over a ton of machinery."
Really? I haven't read DE for years, but I was under the impression that he stopped the cooling unit before it hit him.
Re: Bane vs Sidious
Incanusno feats lol
Ok, feats CAN NOT be applied here. No saying that Sidious did a whole bunch of **** with the Clone Wars. We all know he did, it dosnt matter.
What im interested in, is how they explained their power in 1. lightsaber combat. 2. Force affinity. 3. A duel. Thats it, only those 3, no manipulations. AND NO SIDIOUS/BANE FANBOYISM
1. bane wins because he is big and has armor and sidious is old and hasn't used a lightsaber in a really really long time
2. sidious is the most powerful sith evar the book says so
3. bane wins because he is big and has armor and sidious is powerful but i dont think he is more powerful than bane is big or armored
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Basically, you make no ****ing sense.
SIDIOUS 66It looked to me like it broke apart when it made contact with his shield. That would also fit with the sourcebook's description of what happened.
Well the DE handbook said he shrugged off the crushing impact, so i took it that it must of hit him. But to me, it looked like it disintigrated upon contact with his body.
Re: Re: Bane vs Sidious
Originally posted by chilled monkey
How the heck can that work?How are we supposed to debate any "vs." without providing examples of what each side can do?
by feats i mean as in manipulation of the Clone Wars,and making a galaxy spanning network of spies, etc. making srry about the confusion but thats what i ment. And what about Bane holding back an ECHANI jedi weapons master fighting Jar'Kai, which he can not effectivly counter, and another jedi master, and jedi knight, and all that after barely using a lightsaber after 20 YEARS. Bane is also like fighting a force of nature, he is incredibly strong in both the force and physically. He is also technically a perfect being. And no its not a feat to be the Sith'ari.