Originally posted by IncanusI've got nothing against his power. In truth, if I had the power to rewrite Star Wars as I see fit, every successive generation of Sith and Jedi would get steadily weaker and weaker until we reach Anakin fulfilling the prophecy, but hey that's just me.
What, you think he overpowered Bane? Bane would have to be very powerful not only because he was the Sith'ari, but because he is, he was ment to destroy the Sith and rebuild them to be even stronger. He would have to be very strong if he was gooing to do that.....
The problem I had was Karpy's writing style. Reading the novel, I felt that it was written purely to placate the fans who love lots of Force powers and lightsabers, and tediously baseline backstabbings and schemes. It all felt a bit forced and maladroit. Now compare the Bane novels to Cloak of Deception or the Revenge of the Sith novel... hmm mm! They're pure literary gold by comparison.
Look, I know im losing this, but Sidious is NOT all powerful, or he wouldnt have been killed by a blaster shot in the back by Han, he ould have stopped it somehow. Bane obviously has a small chance of victory, in every vs thread both have a chance of victory. But i think we should wait for a more developed Bane character before we make any solid conclusions. Right now we have 3 books, and a comic i think. Another is coming out, and maybe more.
Originally posted by Incanus
Look, I know im losing this, but Sidious is NOT all powerful, or he wouldnt have been killed by a blaster shot in the back by Han, he ould have stopped it somehow. Bane obviously has a small chance of victory, in every vs thread both have a chance of victory. But i think we should wait for a more developed Bane character before we make any solid conclusions. Right now we have 3 books, and a comic i think. Another is coming out, and maybe more.
Sids isn't all powerful no one is all powerful in SW with the exception of one thing which is the force itself.BUT sids is second ONLY to Luke end of story.
the blaster shot didn't kill sidious at all it was the jedi cyborg friend of luke and all the jedi that whent before them that took sids out.
and lets say more is developed on bane to the point where he is uber awesome in the end Sids>bane ALWAYS its CANON now stop being a fanboy.
Dude, canon can change, anything can. If Lucas changes his mind and wants Bandon to be the strongest sith ever then it is. I just have NOT READ ANY MATERIAL THAT WOULD SUGGEST SIDIOUS IS LIKE THAT. I have only read the Bane books, but have been looking for some time, about a year, for stuff like what you are saying.
Originally posted by Incanus
Dude, canon can change, anything can. If Lucas changes his mind and wants Bandon to be the strongest sith ever then it is. I just have NOT READ ANY MATERIAL THAT WOULD SUGGEST SIDIOUS IS LIKE THAT. I have only read the Bane books, but have been looking for some time, about a year, for stuff like what you are saying.
Canon can change but guess what it Sids being the most powerful sith will NEVER be retconned and Bane will NEVER be the most powerful sith Ever.
Here is a thought for you though who do you think is BETTER than bane? like who in your opinion can kill bane.
Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
heh. noob considers himself a canon expert.G cannon. George lucas himself said it. Which means until someone say something else, Darth Sideous is the most powerful sith in the universe.
the only way for G canon to be retconned is if GL himself or Leeland chee says so.
Wait, so one of the most powerful sith lords in history, and the most powerful, Bane is killed with little effort? Every one knows that Bane is well versed in lightning, Sidious wont pull that on alot. Sidious cant use a wormhole on Bane, because then they would both die. It would take alot of effort dude, Sidious would always have a hard time killing him. No argument. And anyways i lost but there is the odd chance that Bane wins. Out of say, 100 fights, i would say Bane would win at least 1 through an odd mishap. But there would be effort, dude, lots of it.
Originally posted by Incanus
Wait, so one of the most powerful sith lords in history, and the most powerful, Bane is killed with little effort? Every one knows that Bane is well versed in lightning, Sidious wont pull that on alot. Sidious cant use a wormhole on Bane, because then they would both die. It would take alot of effort dude, Sidious would always have a hard time killing him. No argument. And anyways i lost but there is the odd chance that Bane wins. Out of say, 100 fights, i would say Bane would win at least 1 through an odd mishap. But there would be effort, dude, lots of it.
nope. Bane may be one of the greats but sids in all his power is just THAT much more powerful than Bane so is yoda and caedous and Luke and cade. Possibly ragnos as well but ragnos is my opinion.
Ragnos IS more powerful than Bane, at least in force lightning. But Yoda has a 50/50 chance with Bane, as both are like, uber jedi/sith. Caedus has practiacally nothing i am aware of that would give him the win, so can you state some combat feats? And Luke is a force god, he cant die except from old age because the ppl at lucasarts thought it would be great to make a guy that pwnz all and can destroy the galaxy when he perverted the jedi order. Ragnos covered an entire PLANET in his froce lightning from orbit. I heard it from a friend who reads a whole bunch of stuff and probably saw it in a comic/book.
Originally posted by IncanusWhat? Where is this Lightning covered planet coming from? The guy's got less sources on his feats and abilitites than Revan or the Exile.
Ragnos IS more powerful than Bane, at least in force lightning. But Yoda has a 50/50 chance with Bane, as both are like, uber jedi/sith. Caedus has practiacally nothing i am aware of that would give him the win, so can you state some combat feats? And Luke is a force god, he cant die except from old age because the ppl at lucasarts thought it would be great to make a guy that pwnz all and can destroy the galaxy when he perverted the jedi order. Ragnos covered an entire PLANET in his froce lightning from orbit. I heard it from a friend who reads a whole bunch of stuff and probably saw it in a comic/book.
Originally posted by Incanus
Ragnos IS more powerful than Bane, at least in force lightning. But Yoda has a 50/50 chance with Bane, as both are like, uber jedi/sith. Caedus has practiacally nothing i am aware of that would give him the win, so can you state some combat feats? And Luke is a force god, he cant die except from old age because the ppl at lucasarts thought it would be great to make a guy that pwnz all and can destroy the galaxy when he perverted the jedi order. Ragnos covered an entire PLANET in his froce lightning from orbit. I heard it from a friend who reads a whole bunch of stuff and probably saw it in a comic/book.
YOur friend lied to you about ragnos the ONLY time you see him is when he is dead. he has NEVER been shown using lightning you know NOTHING about ragnos
Yoda is the most devastating foe the darkside has ever known. if you watch ep3 he beats sids in the lightsaber fight. but all this is for a different time
and i'm fairly sure I know how luke will die after reading OMEN. I highly doubt its of old age.
as for caedous read his wookieepedia entry