DC Cyborg, yeah? I'm unfamiliar with New 52 Cyborg, but if he has any decent AoE attacks: energy spray, sonics, etc., then Spidey is in some trouble. Anyone saying he doesn't hit Spider-Man must only be considering H2H and directional attacks. On that, we agree. But Vic wouldn't be put down quickly, so I doubt it's so easy.
Cyborg wins at least 8/10 if he has a competent array of AoE attacks. If he doesn't, it likely swings the other way.
Originally posted by marwash22
Cyborg has a white noise cannon that completely disintegrated Darkseid's parademons.Spider-Man can't even hurt Cyborg.
Yeah, this seems like the best assessment I've seen so far.
I don't know about "can't even hurt" - Pete has laid the lumber to some heavy hitters before - but the overall opinion is sound.
Cyborg wins.
Vic tanked a punch from Superman; Superman was weakened by kryptonite at the time, but he was still way stronger than Spider-man.
Vic doesn't need to tag Spidey, his white noise cannon has a huge radius... Spidey can't even get close to Vic.
Honestly, this isn't a fair fight unless you give Spidey prep.
Originally posted by marwash22
Vic tanked a punch from Superman; Superman was weakened by kryptonite at the time, but he was still way stronger than Spider-man.Vic doesn't need to tag Spidey, his white noise cannon has a huge radius... Spidey can't even get close to Vic.
Honestly, this isn't a fair fight unless you give Spidey prep.
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Cyborg is atleast a full notch/tier segment above Spidey...
Cyborg 10/10...
Originally posted by marwash22
Vic tanked a punch from Superman; Superman was weakened by kryptonite at the time, but he was still way stronger than Spider-man.Vic doesn't need to tag Spidey, his white noise cannon has a huge radius... Spidey can't even get close to Vic.
Honestly, this isn't a fair fight unless you give Spidey prep.
You know debating doesn't work like that. Spiderman has endured hits from top tiers as well.
I agree, if Vic starts off with an attack like that, it would probably end the fight. Glad CIS is on and wasn't that parademon showing non canon to the real Vic?
Originally posted by carver9work like what, stating facts?
You know debating doesn't work like that.
Originally posted by carver9doesn't matter what Spiderman has endured, we're discussing the damage he can dish out, not the damage he can take... and it's a fact that he can't come close dishing out the amount of force even a weakened Superman can.
Spiderman has endured hits from top tiers as well.
Originally posted by carver9it's evident you've lost an argument when you fall back on the CIS rule.
I agree, if Vic starts off with an attack like that, it would probably end the fight. Glad CIS is on
anyhow, CIS about stupidity, the rule implicitly states that CIS is "any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively". Cyborg is not stupid, He's basically a walking computer, one of the most logical fighters you will find.
to suggest he wouldn't use his best attack on a foe at the start of a match is asinine.
Originally posted by carver9what do you mean?
and wasn't that parademon showing non canon to the real Vic?
Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman can hurt Vic, and I honestly can't see him tagging Spiderman.
As long as he has competent AoE, you're wrong.
I'll throw you a bone on the comparative durability debate you're having with marwash. If we take highest showings, both have tanked blows from characters well beyond their range. Vic's durability is clearly higher, and it would be problematic for Pete to put him down. But likely not impossible, though it would take time.
However, the AoE is the killer. It's been an Achilles of Spidey for years.
Originally posted by marwash22
work like what, stating facts?doesn't matter what Spiderman has endured, we're discussing the damage he can dish out, not the damage he can take... and it's a fact that he can't come close dishing out the amount of force even a weakened Superman can.
it's evident you've lost an argument when you fall back on the CIS rule.
anyhow, CIS about stupidity, the rule implicitly states that CIS is "any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively". Cyborg is not stupid, He's basically a walking computer, one of the most logical fighters you will find.
to suggest he wouldn't use his best attack on a foe at the start of a match is asinine.
what do you mean?
Claiming 10/10 against a character the caliber of Spiderman with the combat prowess and success record is also asinine. I think Cyborg wins a small majority.
Originally posted by marwash22
work like what, stating facts?doesn't matter what Spiderman has endured, we're discussing the damage he can dish out, not the damage he can take... and it's a fact that he can't come close dishing out the amount of force even a weakened Superman can.
it's evident you've lost an argument when you fall back on the CIS rule.
anyhow, CIS about stupidity, the rule implicitly states that CIS is "any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively". Cyborg is not stupid, He's basically a walking computer, one of the most logical fighters you will find.
to suggest he wouldn't use his best attack on a foe at the start of a match is asinine.
what do you mean?
That Vic average is that high.
Lol...when Spiderman gets serious, he damage people like Ironman, Firelord, Masterson Thor, Angrir, and Absorbing Man, all who is above Cyborg. Cyborg can not win a ft war against Parker.
Honestly, CIS helps Victor more than anything. A CIS LESS Spiderman would be blitzing the hell out of Victor before he had the chance to react. Victor doesn't have the speed to tag Spiderman or to get off an attack before Spiderman would. Webbing plays a huge role here and you already know why.
What showing are you talking about with the Parademon because if it's the one I think you are talking about, it isn't canon to the real Vic.