Eli Vanto
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ST Luke vs. Snoke and Kylo Ren
Luke from the ST, reconnected with the force.
vs.
Snoke and ROS Kylo.
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Dec 12th, 2020 05:22 PM
xPRIMEx
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Luke is likely more powerful than both, and a better duelist. But I don’t think he could take them both at the same time. Snoke could just spam lightning while he’s dueling Kylo
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Dec 12th, 2020 07:56 PM
Scizard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Luke is likely more powerful than both, and a better duelist. But I don’t think he could take them both at the same time. Snoke could just spam lightning while he’s dueling Kylo
Agreed. Luke said the raw strength of Kylo was on pars with Rey's who he was frightened of and that would've been a young Ben so.. Kylo should really be very powerful by the time of TROS. Enough to keep Luke distracted imo.
Dec 13th, 2020 03:50 PM
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Dec 13th, 2020 05:26 PM
Galan007
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Luke, imo.
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Dec 13th, 2020 05:31 PM
Total Warrior
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Luke
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Dec 13th, 2020 06:57 PM
Darth Thor
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How awesome would it be if we saw this fight? And they had Luke winning until he has to go sacrifice himself.
Jan 14th, 2021 05:38 PM
Psychotron
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Luke. Kylo was garbage and Luke could easily dispatch him with the Force the same way Snoke did Rey in TLJ and Sidious did Kylo. Then it's just Luke vs Snoke and we know that Snoke was afraid of Luke.
Jan 14th, 2021 06:12 PM
xPRIMEx
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I doubt Luke could easily just dispatch Kylo with the force, especially if this is ROS Kylo. Palpatine was far stronger than even Luke.
Maybe if it’s TLJ Kylo.
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Jan 14th, 2021 06:28 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I doubt Luke could easily just dispatch Kylo with the force, especially if this is ROS Kylo. Palpatine was far stronger than even Luke.
Maybe if it’s TLJ Kylo.
We dont know there was any significant difference between TLJ and ROS Kylo. Unless im missing something.
But I wasnt very impressed by ROS Kylo and how he dealt with the KOR.
Jan 14th, 2021 08:13 PM
xPRIMEx
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You didn’t notice a difference? I thought it was kind of obvious.
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Jan 15th, 2021 12:28 AM
Darth Thor
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Because he whooped the KOR? Joke
Reasons? Pulling on the Ship against Rey?
Really I dont know. His most bad ass moment was still his opening in TFA: the freezing of Poe and the blaster bolt IMHO.
Jan 15th, 2021 12:48 AM
xPRIMEx
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I really liked the opening scene in ROS too.
I noticed a huge difference in his demeanor. He had his emotions under control which makes a huge difference for force users.
His fight against the KoR was a huge improvement over his performance against the Praetorian Guards too.
Jan 15th, 2021 01:24 AM
StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Luke is likely more powerful than both, and a better duelist. But I don’t think he could take them both at the same time. Snoke could just spam lightning while he’s dueling Kylo
You're assuming he can spam lightning.
IIRC, he only used a single burst of it... which bounced off the floor (that part was cool).
But we don't know if he could sustain it.
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Jan 15th, 2021 01:54 AM
StiltmanFTW
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Then again, if Luke was right about Snoke being more or less equal to RotJ Palps... then sure, he most likely would be able to "spam" it.
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Jan 15th, 2021 01:55 AM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I really liked the opening scene in ROS too.
I noticed a huge difference in his demeanor. He had his emotions under control which makes a huge difference for force users.
His fight against the KoR was a huge improvement over his performance against the Praetorian Guards too.
Anything in the novel about his clarity/focus?
He still seemed frustrated to me. And he did turn back in the same film. So nothing concrete as far as I can gather.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then again, if Luke was right about Snoke being more or less equal to RotJ Palps... then sure, he most likely would be able to "spam" it.
That idea has been thoroughly debunked in the Snoke vs Dooku thread.
Its simply not possible Snoke could be THAT powerful, and still just a lackey.
Jan 15th, 2021 09:43 AM
Galan007
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And tbf, Snoke could 'only' be Dooku-level, and still spam the absolute shit out of FL.
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Jan 15th, 2021 01:42 PM
Psychotron
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I doubt Luke could easily just dispatch Kylo with the force, especially if this is ROS Kylo. Palpatine was far stronger than even Luke.
Maybe if it’s TLJ Kylo.
Why not? Kylo is sub-Rey level in his Force powers if we use the ship feat since Rey was fighting the ship's engines AND Kylo's Force pull. She can also conjure Force lightning, unlike Kylo, who dedicated himself to the Dark side and still couldn't learn it, and she mastered the healing power before him too.
I'll agree that Luke isn't as strong as ROS Sidious, but Snoke was a couple of tiers above Kylo and Rey in TLJ and it's heavily implied that Luke > Snoke.
Jan 15th, 2021 05:45 PM
StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
And tbf, Snoke could 'only' be Dooku-level, and still spam the absolute shit out of FL.
What he has shown on screen was a mere Legends Shadowtrooper level.
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Jan 15th, 2021 06:03 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Psychotron
Why not? Kylo is sub-Rey level in his Force powers if we use the ship feat since Rey was fighting the ship's engines AND Kylo's Force pull. She can also conjure Force lightning, unlike Kylo, who dedicated himself to the Dark side and still couldn't learn it, and she mastered the healing power before him too.
I'll agree that Luke isn't as strong as ROS Sidious, but Snoke was a couple of tiers above Kylo and Rey in TLJ and it's heavily implied that Luke > Snoke.
I doubt Movie Rey was above Kylo in any way (sans calling on all the Jedi nonsense).
The lightning was supposed to show she was related to Palpatine (as stupid as that is logically).
Jan 15th, 2021 07:29 PM
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