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xPRIMEx
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ROTS Obi Wan vs ROTJ Luke

Who would win? Both are fighting to kill.
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The only way Luke doesn't win is if you think Vader was massively nerfed in RotJ, imo.


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My opinion-
ROTJ Luke = ROTJ Vader >> Mustafar Anakin ~ ROTS Kenobi.


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Vader was holding back in ROTJ, his performance can't be used as a measure of Lukes abilities. Having said that, after Mando finale I think Luke takes this after a decent fight
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Vader was holding back in ROTJ, his performance can't be used as a measure of Lukes abilities. Having said that, after Mando finale I think Luke takes this after a decent fight



But the Luke we saw in Mando was 5 years post ROTJ.
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The only way Luke doesn't win is if you think Vader was massively nerfed in RotJ, imo.

Yeah, I’m still undecided on whether or not Luke is = ROTJ Vader. I know there’s that quote that says they are, but at the same time I know Vader was very conflicted during their fight.
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So was Luke.


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Yeah, Luke didnt try to kill his father either

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Yeah, Luke didnt try to kill his father either



Thats not the same as being conflicted though.
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Thats not the same as being conflicted though.
But it certainly held back Luke. So I dont think Vader was conflicted during ROTJ is a good argument. Since both of them werent at their peaks/not going all out
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What..? Luke didn’t seem very conflicted or hindered when he beat Vader, he was going all out rage mode on him.
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I mean Luke literally said he wont fight vader and kept being defensive. And when he was going all out/using his rage him stomping vader easily. I dont think that is a good argument for vader being massively above Luke confused
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Yeah, but Luke went rage mode. He had to use his anger to defeat a conflicted Vader.
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I never said Vader was *massively* above Luke.
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I know. I just want to say that Vader was conflicted during ROTJ doesnt necessarily mean Luke's powers werent equal to Vader's.
I still tend to take the value of the quote saying Vader and Luke are equal in the force and skills
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Yeah, but Luke went rage mode. He had to use his anger to defeat a conflicted Vader.
In Beware the Power of the Dark Side it was stated that Vader was tapping into his dark sided emotions(ie. hate, rage, fear) when Luke went beast mode, but it was still not enough to defend against him.


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What’s the quote that says they were equal?
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https://i.imgur.com/t8Wy6e4.jpg
-Jedi vs. Sith (2016)
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I guess that settles that then. The quote is pretty self explanatory.

I just don’t like the fact that Luke is so strong after only a few years of training.
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Thats not the same as being conflicted though.


Luke was conflicted with his own dark side, realizing it takes away his humanity.

Both father and son were conflicted in the throne room scene, in their own ways.


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