heh, quanchi proved his point and all the nay sayers stopped, quan take note. the next time a flame war is about to erupt just grab a scan and be done with it.
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What i got from this debate is...
We have scans stating......
1)Darkseid says he does not have the power to kill yuga khan
2)Yuga Khan believes darkseid's power is the only one in existence who REMOTELY comes close to taking him out
3)Darkseid states that he cannot kill his father because of the same reason orion cant kill him(guessing it has to do with the balance they mention in the scans)
I put up a scan showing that Darkseid was powerless at the time that he made that statement about lacking the power to do so.
I believe Yuga Khan believes Darkseid is the only new god out there who has the power to take him out. He wasnt talking about all other characters in the dcu. Someone like the Spectre could take out Yuga rather easily.
you do realize that by virtue of metron saying that yugah khan is the most powerful god ever, that removes all doubt as to whom is more powerful, darksied or yugah khan. darksied also cannot blink and destroy entire civilizations. and for the record, in dc, civilizations usually span star systems, and or have advanced tech shielding and such. that makes yugah that much more powerful. let's also look at this funny lil fact. the source was split when it created the new gods. but when it created the old gods, it was whole. guess what? yugah was created by the source in it's entirety. that would mean that yugah is what darksied and the other new gods are about to become. the true gods. the giant galactus lvl beings. fangirl101 score 1.
You would have torn my argument apart but I never said Darkseid was more powerful than Yuga Khan. I said that Darkseid has the power to kill him but wasnt able to do a thing because of the primal law forbidding him to do so. I know Yuga is more powerful than Darkseid but I also think Darkseid has the power to kill him if he were allowed to in the first place.
Yuga caught off the new gods from the Source and Darkseid was stripped of his powers. Yuga cant cut Thanos off from his powers. Thanos has nothing to do with the Source my friend. And defeating the new gods while powerless isnt that impressive.
You are way off base with your baseless assumptions about whats going on in final crisis and what the writer intended when he wrote this comic. It doesnt make any sense.
goodness. it says right on the comic page, from the sources own mouth, when he created the new gods, he wasn't whole. he was fixing that mistake. period. when he created the old gods, the source was in tact. thus the old gods are what the new gods of the 5th world are about to be. grant morrison has already said that the 5th world gods will all be galactus lvl and up. darksied being the most powerful of them.
as for yugah khan and thanos, it's really simple, yugah can control the energies of the source. whether he cut the new gods off from it is inconcesquential. it's the fact that he can cut them off. meaning he has VAST energy manipulation powers. he doesn't need to cut thanos off from any powers. he simply can blast thanos into atoms with the vast energy he controls. obviously darksied can kill yugah ONLY becuz darksied's powers also come from the source. something thanos can't do becuz as you so nicely reminds us, thanos isn't connected to the source. fangirl101: score 2.
Again Yuga Khan isnt as powerful as what Morrison has in store for these gods in fc. Sorry but you are speculating as usual as to the old gods power levels and trying to compare them to morrisons vision of the new gods.
Why would Yuga cut them off when he didnt need to. Answer is because he weakened them and cut them off so he could easily abuse them. Who did he blast into atoms on Thanos' level in this story? Who?
Ok to wrap it up. Darkseid had the power necessary to kill Yuga. Darkseid isnt as powerful as Thanos. Yuga knew Darkseid couldnt kill him because of the primal law that the new gods must obey all except for Orion it appears. Thanos is more powerful than darkseid and he cant cut off his powers which he did to the new gods and Darkseid. This and Yuga's lack of battle feats lead me to believe Thanos beats him.
man. you are something else. where did they find you. it's not the lvl of power that darksied has that enables him to kill his father, it's the KIND of power. thanos does not have the omega factor.
thanos also is not more powerful than darksied. that is wishful thinking. thanos can't balance omnipotent sources of power with one other person. thanos hasn't killed any pantheons on panel. thanos can't control time, life, death, entropy, shadow demons, etc. that point is mute. come to think of it, darksied once shot the spectre and made him howl in pain. thanos has never done anything close to that. the best he has is a shot at galactus. galactus didn't even flinch in pain. he was knocked over, but that was it. spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>galactus. there goes that theory of yours. so even if darksied had the power to kill yugah( which he doesn't) he's cleary leagues above thanos.
yugah didn't kill the new gods becuz he wanted to toy with them. also, yugah gains his powers just like galactus. by draining the life energies of planets. so a "fully" fed yugah can not only tap the source, but also drain planets of thier life. thanos is screwed here.
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Pardon me for saying this.................but, WHAT DEBATE WERE YOU READING?! Cresh and I destroyed this cretin over 10 pages. Quan did nothing to counter our arguements.
He got slapped down like the troll he is.
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I have heard this song and dance many times before.
Darkseid lacks the power to dominate Superman anymore. He is just a top tier. Darkseid killed nameless pantheons off panel. That feats carries no weight whatsoever because he still cant dominate Supes so I would say its safe to say they were very weak pantheons. Darkseid didnt do any damage to the Spectre. I have seen Black Adam dance on him before and actually get away with it while Darkseid was oneshotted to bones.
Thanos has been consistently shown to operate with a higher power level. He trades blows with Tyrant and Odin who can oneshot top tiers. You pick one showing in which Darkseid barely even phased the Spectre and in which he was oneshotted to death.
Yuga has no impressive battle feats for me to go by. And it was stated that Darkseid had the power to kill him.
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Pardon me for saying this.................but, WHAT DEBATE WERE YOU READING?! 
Cresh and I destroyed this cretin over 10 pages. Quan did nothing to counter our arguements. 
