Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by qwertyuiop19981,926 pages

So it seems future state stories have their own different timelines
Immortal Wonder Woman 2 Spectre lasts until the end of creation
https://ibb.co/m6dH43x
https://ibb.co/hmhrGF8
https://ibb.co/31v9z2V
https://ibb.co/SQr18TN
https://ibb.co/bKt4HmQ
But in Shazam issue 2 Spectre was killed by the spear of destiny
https://ibb.co/LCtbK50
https://ibb.co/BcPhDTq

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So it seems future state stories have their own different timelines
Immortal Wonder Woman 2 Spectre lasts until the end of creation
https://ibb.co/m6dH43x
https://ibb.co/hmhrGF8
https://ibb.co/31v9z2V
https://ibb.co/SQr18TN
https://ibb.co/bKt4HmQ
But in Shazam issue 2 Spectre was killed by the spear of destiny
https://ibb.co/LCtbK50
https://ibb.co/BcPhDTq
IMO these are all possible futures. They have a slate that they can write anything. How they normalize this crap, no idea.

Originally posted by Diesldude
IMO these are all possible futures. They have a slate that they can write anything. How they normalize this crap, no idea.
Future State basically just a recycled Futures End imo

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Future State basically just a recycled Futures End imo
Yeah, pretty much.

Originally posted by Diesldude
IMO these are all possible futures. They have a slate that they can write anything. How they normalize this crap, no idea.

Except the Superman 1 Million crap is a potential future anyways, meaning they ruined Superman Prime.

Went onto the Source and came out changed, spent millions of years in a Super Sun, empowered entire generations of Supermen with Pre Crisis level power.

Logically, he should he way stronger then the powered up Superman who shattered World Forgers "Masterpiece" reality, and knocked him on his butt.

Every time someone does something with DC 1 Million, they make them a little less awesome then the Morrison version.

If I was writing it, what I'd do is crib the Alan Moore "Place of Power" plot device, and make Superman Prime invincible, but only in his own time with the super sun.

So you can get these interesting scenerios where he's able to give The Batmanhattan Who Laughs a tough time in his own timeline, but do jack all outside of it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Except the Superman 1 Million crap is a potential future anyways, meaning they ruined Superman Prime.

Went onto the Source and came out changed, spent millions of years in a Super Sun, empowered entire generations of Supermen with Pre Crisis level power.

Logically, he should he way stronger then the powered up Superman who shattered World Forgers "Masterpiece" reality, and knocked him on his butt.

Every time someone does something with DC 1 Million, they make them a little less awesome then the Morrison version.


I think they wrote themselves into a corner with a sun dipped Superman punching out a multiverse, because to match what this would indicate for a millions of years super sun dipped Superman, would need to put the idiocy of the Suggsverse to shame.

Originally posted by cdtm
Except the Superman 1 Million crap is a potential future anyways, meaning they ruined Superman Prime.

Went onto the Source and came out changed, spent millions of years in a Super Sun, empowered entire generations of Supermen with Pre Crisis level power.

Logically, he should he way stronger then the powered up Superman who shattered World Forgers "Masterpiece" reality, and knocked him on his butt.

Every time someone does something with DC 1 Million, they make them a little less awesome then the Morrison version.

That's pretty much standard across the board, though.

No one can write like Morrison does... Especially when it comes to Superman-themed books. So when various writers try to use or expand on his works, they almost always fail.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's pretty much standard across the board, though.

No one can write like Morrison does... Especially when it comes to Superman-themed books. So when various writers try to use or expand on his works, they almost always fail.

they aren’t expanding on his work, they are taking a shit on it.

Is the Watchmen universe part of the primary multiverse (maybe one of the unknown worlds in the orrery) or is located in a completely different multiverse?

Originally posted by LordGod
Is the Watchmen universe part of the primary multiverse (maybe one of the unknown worlds in the orrery) or is located in a completely different multiverse?

Good question 👆

I don't think even DC knows anymore.

Galan, honey?

No explicit confirmation either way.

My opinion: it's part of a different multiverse.

I feel like if the Watchmen-verse were part of the mainstream multiverse, Dr. Manhattan would have already been well aware of the "Superman Constant" that quite literally binds the multiverse's entire superstructure together... But when he 'ported into the mainstream DCU, the metafictional concept of Superman was completely foreign to him, which is why he began vehemently probing/investigating the DCU(and fangirling over Superman) in the first place.

Spoiler:
Uniforce is the god of light (the golden god who defeated Knull became the source of the power) and it choses Brock as new host

Originally posted by Galan007
No explicit confirmation either way.

My opinion: it's part of a different multiverse.

I feel like if the Watchmen-verse were part of the mainstream multiverse, Dr. Manhattan would have already been well aware of the "Superman Constant" that quite literally binds the multiverse's entire superstructure together... But when he 'ported into the mainstream DCU, the metafictional concept of Superman was completely foreign to him, which is why he began vehemently probing/investigating the DCU(and fangirling over Superman) in the first place.

that's by far the best explanation 👆

the writers forgot to categorize the multiverses properly

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spoiler:
Uniforce is the god of light (the golden god who defeated Knull became the source of the power) and it choses Brock as new host

Out of left-field, lol. For those wondering, it is a King in Black spoiler, on who the God of Light is.

Isn't Unipower just an aspect of the Enigma Force?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spoiler:
Uniforce is the god of light (the golden god who defeated Knull became the source of the power) and it choses Brock as new host
lmao

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Isn't Unipower just an aspect of the Enigma Force?

Donny Cates doesn't cares.

The whole arc is making Venom less interesting

Venom was interesting?