Sutherland Springs, TX shooting

The way to empower people is to teach them that they are active agents in their own lives, inculcate within them the notion that they are an active agent in their own lives, inculcate within these children from a young age that if they graduate high school get a job and don't have kids out of wedlock that they will most likely not wind up in poverty (2% of people who followed these three steps are in poverty, and 75% ended up joining the middle class). What's not helpful is constantly inculcating within people this sense of victimhood, that they are not in control of their own lives and there is an insurmountable barrier before them that they can never escape from regardless of what steps they take in their lives to do so. It's called learned helplessness.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Except the single motherhood rate in the black community grew pretty drastically around the same time the civil rights movement made many of it's great strides. The single motherhood rate in black communities was actually lower back then. Is America more racist now than it was in the sixties and if so how did that happen?

What you're missing is that in the seventies and eighties there was a backlash against all that progress. Not mainly direct policy, but indirectly through financial policy.

America became financially conservative and started valuing individual success over widespread improvement. The thinking was "poor people are poor because they want to be poor. Homeless people are homeless because they want to be homeless". Public housing was killed, social services were massively cutback, and people dumped shelters and garbage and waste on poor communities giving up on them as they considered them a lost cause. Gentrification was allowed to destroy and relocate poor and working class people from their homes. School intergration was killed despite it improving the prospects of both black and white students. When people tried to build low incomes for poor minorities in middle class white communities, people got pissed and stopped that sh!t.

In short, we stopped giving a sh!t about the impoverished and bottom of our society, and that had quite a bit to do with racism. which ended up fcking up minorities disproportionately.'

And even today, alot of that systematic problem goes on utterly unaddressed.

, that they are not in control of their own lives and there is an insurmountable barrier before them that they can never escape from regardless of what steps they take in their lives to do so. It's called learned helplessness.

Ultimately I don't believe there are many laws (if any) that we could put on the books that would truley stop these shootings.

If you really look at these shooters they are looking for power/relevance/control and the weapon is simply the tool they are using to exert said control.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
It all goes back to the same systematic issues, and yet the only thing that politicans seem to give a fck about now these days are superfircial issues like affirmative education and safe spaces.

Also the safe space thing is part of a cultural issue surrounding our college campuses where people are being inculcated to reject responsibility, and I think it's telling when a disproportionate number of college students believe in socialism and restrictions on free speech that this is a cultural issue worth rooting out before it grows.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The fundamental issues get little to no attention. When's the last time you heard a story about how landowners abuse loopholes in our laws to make working class tenants homeless so they can get rich people to pay more rent?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
When's the last time you heard a news story about school intergration?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
When's the last time you heard a news story about the retarded way the lives of folks are ruined by minor crimes and sh!t that shouldn't even be a crime like smoking weed?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
When's the last time you heard a major news story about voter suppression?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
About how some states don't even allow ex-convicts to vote?

How much is the fact that the Killer was stopped by a Gun being done by the Leftist Fascist Media and their Looney Goonies on this board?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]How much is the fact that the Killer was stopped by a Gun being done by the Leftist Fascist Media and their Looney Goonies on this board? [/B]

Something something USA is the only civilised country that has mass shootings.

It is also the country which 57% watches cuckold porn. I don't know why I put this in there, but thought I would anyway.

But most of that Cuckhold Porn is made in 3rd World Shit Hole Lefty Countries like the one you live in. So yeah.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Ultimately I don't believe there are many laws (if any) that we could put on the books that would truley stop these shootings.

If you really look at these shooters they are looking for power/relevance/control and the weapon is simply the tool they are using to exert said control.

You think if this Texas shooter didn't have a gun the death toll would have been the same?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]How much is the fact that the Killer was stopped by a Gun being done by the Leftist Fascist Media and their Looney Goonies on this board? [/B]

I thought Robtard addressed this, already? Someone in the congregation grabbed the gun and he dropped it. It wasn't the person who had the gun that got him to stop.

The gun control in place if properly implemented would've stopped him.

The idea that because a mass shooting happened we should push for gun control policy that wouldn't have prevented the tragedy is absurd because it's not logical then, it's a naked emotional appeal.

And using tragedies like this that comprise less than one percent of gun deaths to tailor gun policies towards also isn't the most logical thing to do.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You think if this Texas shooter didn't have a gun the death toll would have been the same?

Nope.

That's not really the issue though.. He never should have had a gun in the first place.

Sadly if the Dems can't get their shit together we probably will end up with 2 terms of this fuckface.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You think if this Texas shooter didn't have a gun the death toll would have been the same?

I'm saying that I cannot think of any new legislation that could be passed that would have prevented this attack, especially since this particular incident was one that was already supposed to have been stopped by laws already in place.

Also no I don't think the toll would have been the same, USA has a gun culture problem that isn't going to be solved anytime soon by any sort of legislation.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Sadly if the Dems can't get their shit together we probably will end up with 2 terms of this [b]fuckface. [/B]

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And using tragedies like this that comprise less than one percent of gun deaths to tailor gun policies towards also isn't the most logical thing to do.

Right. Rockydonovang wants to ban guns to stop gun suicides. But the research, as I've shown, just shifts those suicides to other methods.

Gun control should be no-nonsense policies. If you care about suicide, find legit ways to combat suicide. If you care about violence, find legit ways to combat violence. As has been shown, stricter gun laws does not reduce homicides: there's even a slightly higher rate of homicide in more restricted gun law states.

If you care about homicides, find legit ways to combat homicide. Stricter gun laws do not stop homicides. It's almost as if...people commit violence for reasons other than guns.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Sadly if the Dems can't get their shit together we probably will end up with 2 terms of this [b]fuckface. [/B]

If politics are as polarized as they seem, the question is, what's the X factor?

Is it older minoroties who can't travel? Younger minorities who don't care enough to vote? White "swing voters" who voted for both Obama and Trump?

We say politics is polarized, and no one I've ever talked with or associated with would consider voting for Trump or Obama both. It's always one or the other, never both.

So who are these people deciding elections?

Originally posted by cdtm
Nope.

That's not really the issue though.. He never should have had a gun in the first place.

I think that is part of the bigger issue.

The more immediate one is that this particular individual shouldn’t have been allowed to get hold of one.

Originally posted by cdtm

So who are these people deciding elections?

I thought the polls already said that white fly over state non college educated blue collar workers decided this in a few swing states.

There's also the fact that Trump won areas that Romney lost to Obama, even though Romney got more votes than Trump did in those areas. The basic gist is a lot of people didn't want to vote for Trump or Hillary, the old Douche vs Turd adage.