I like what this guy wrote on another forum, about Superman fighting CA Superman. I will quote him(credit at bottom)
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Superman Beyond was a Morrison thing through and through. It focused and expanded on a hyper self-forming story and battle with the Monitors. Superman basically had a better story happening outside the normal realm of thinking, and from his origin he was the basis for an evolving greater story to be told after he beat Mandrakk so to speak. Similar to a writer telling the greatest story ever told while writing a story about it. It fed upon itself in a bigger picture sort of way I guess. Some guy named messhi (or something) tried to explain it that way in a blog review when it came out, like a story writing itself as it unfolded.
The 'to be continued' was meant to symbolize that it wasn't over in an ambiguous & continuous life cycle fashion of birth and death...
Or something like that. It's better to read it separate on your own after Final Crisis. Nobody really got it right in the bigger picture sense, maybe even Grant. The way he writes these days leaves much to individual interpretation. In a weird way, I think it ties to his run on Animal Man (which was pretty good) as far as understanding the 'meta' context. Meta essentially means 'beyond' followed by whatever it may mean to whomever reads it. In Superman Beyond, it may as well tie with the whole beyond theme Grant was going for with both the art and storytelling. Something bigger was happening that Supes was involved in, not just the Final Crisis on earth. He was a part of the bigger story at the time on Earth while being outside of it at the same time simultaneously in an instant or so. I haven't even bothered mentioning Legion of 3 Worlds yet.
To Morrison it was all clear. To many readers, it was just overall initial confusion at the start."
Credit to Name already Taken. from CBR.com
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Last edited by xJLxKing on May 13th, 2009 at 05:23 PM
But you are right in the sense that the Bleed is a demonstrable manifestation of the life of creation's story. In essence the Bleed represents the life of story.
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Iboga chose not to fight, to allow himself to evolve. He had the wisdom to abandon the actions of war when he knew they would no longer serve him.
I know man, I get way too worked up about this stuff. But I'm stuck here writing on an exam, and my neighbour's throwing a god damned party.
Regardless, in a neutral setting this is essentially an omnipotent character versus a character who feeds on the very essence of comics and cannot be defeated by anything in a comic (save for superman?). So what happens?
Actually, we're done here. I honestly can't believe i have to do this, but i guess i shouldn't be surprised. The blatant arrogance, ignorance, and just downright petty hatred shown by some people in this thread towards a character simply because he comes from another company just boggles the mind. It's comics. It does't f*cking matter what company a character is from. It's all the same when it comes down to it.
Grow the f*ck up. There are more important things in life.
Coming on to this forum to debate about COMIC characters presumes that you've actually read and to some degree understood the comic. But no... That seems to be too much to ask at this stage.
So, closed, and I'm going to close any Mandrakk thread from now on. People can't go through a thread without trolling a character, then they can piss off, frankly.
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