If I argued against Superman in every thread then maybe. I don't. I might not give him the benefit of the doubt like some but I won't just argue the Thing or even Darkseid beats him. I like Darkseid as a character but support the notion Superman is more formidable/powerful.
That part where I say Superman's will can be broken.
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You don't grasp what anything means, what is your point?
You see, you don't understand, apparently your reading comprehension skills are below average. I claim Lucifer wins based on hierarchy can you get that in your head? Based on a power scale and panel showings, there is not even a contest, Superman is challenging someone several tiers above him, while Lucifer is just going against the next tier. But you are so dense, You can't get it. You hatred towards Superman just sees a loss.
I already gave you two, why does he needs to power share Hell?
Lol, it states on panel that He is challenging the will of a 99%powered imp and He wanted to break his will, like he did to Batman, but He couldn't.
The only thing you are consistent in on your hatred towards Superman and you love for Thanos, NOTHING ELSE.
I believe Batman's will is to be respected and in some instances it will endure more than Superman's but I also believe Superman's will prevail on some instances when Batman's won't
Will power has to do with the odds you face Quan, the greater the odds against you the greater the show of will.
Who has more merit to will power? Bill Gates who arose from the bottom or Prince Charles who was born on top?
The answer is obvious to people with half a brain.
In that regard I give you props for your will power, because I do not know how you can blink and breath at the same time and on top of that you are capable to use the key board, this is why asking you to improve you reading comprehension skills is probably asking too much.
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I have had two confirmed Quan haters completely endorse my posts. That's how undeniably sound my comprehension is here.
So then just say I am right and that Lucifer wins. You claimed Lucifer's powers make him another tier up this thread is just based on willpower. How formidable they are with their own powers is irrelevant to this thread.
Both feats you gave me pale in comparison to the Maker feat. It's hilarious you'd use showings of minor hell lords and try to compare them to the Maker of all reality.
I know. Superman's will is exceptional and in this instance it was superior to Batman's. In my instance it was broken easily. On some days it's up to the task and on some days it isn't.
I am consistent with my logic. You aren't. That's undeniable. I bet you don't know what undeniable even means.
I agree but according to your logic the character with less power means the willpower is even more respectable. I don't agree with your logic but you avoid it when it comes back to bite you.
I agree to a certain extent. But Superman's willpower has faltered when the odds were less than in the EJoker showing so it doesn't always pan out that way. Lucifer's will power defying his own function against the supreme being all of reality is one of the best feats of willpower in comics. Better than any feat of willpower of Superman's. If you disagree then post proof.
I have no idea what either characters willpower is. Just because you're born into a station and someone arises to said station this has nothing and I do mean absolutely nothing to do with willpower. In Bill Gtes case it had to do with intelligence and ingenuity. He didn't will himself to be rich.
Your insults are almost as laughable as your definition of willpower.
Insults are a sign that you are losing a debate.
Here read a few posts of posts you claimed were from someone with half a brain.
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Woop dee doo, your life time accomplishment.
Unlike You, I don't need someone to pat me in the back, Quan
Oh, Quani, his powers were given to him! the other guys earn them.
Batman's or Superman's will did not came warped up in a gift bag. sort of speaking in a fictional world
It is hilarious, don't get the odds scale, I can't really ask for much in here can I?
Same as Lucifer's, but thanks for the compliment.
I am, problem is, You cannot grasp concepts. I said all along based on hierarchy and Batman's will to be respected too, I never said otherwise.
When it comes back to bite me? I have no problem believing a guy with no powers has an incredible will power, but as Superman's it has to have limits. After all no limits fallacy cannot be applied to characters like Superman, Batman, Doom and Thanos. So based on hierarchy Lucifer wins, get it?
I already pointed out how an act of free will is questionable, but you don't get it.
Yeah well computer just didn't appear because He did nothing, He had a vision and work towards it, he had some problems along the way, like having no money, legal battles and so on, but He did not gave up, The other guy, probably had less problems during his life.
I bet you if You put them both in a desert island the guy used to face incredible odds has more will than the other.
Which one, the one you partially agree to?
What is your definition of will?
Not really, insults also have their place with people who deserve to be made fun of. Why Thanos is banned?
Like I said, the highlight of you life achievements.
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I don't need a pat on the back. You are saying I lack a complete brain while others are saying my posts are amazing. I am just laughing at your lack of comprehension.
Superman's powers were given to him. Batman earned his skillset unlike Superman. Who cares ? Lucifer was created with a willpower superior to Superman but even the Presence didn't intend for his willpower to escape his entire function. That's exceeding expectations. You yourself agree Lucifer wins. That's the best part.
You don't even realize how unbelievable you are in comparing the Maker of all to a hell lord in terms of willpower.
Then give me an example when Lucifer's willpower broke ?
You said based on power that willpower is affected. Someone with greater powers has an advantage over someone with weaker powers so you believe Batman's willpower is a lot greater since Superman is a million times at least stronger than Batman. That's your logic not mine.
I never said Batman or Superman's doesn't have limits. You said the guy with weaker powers is more impressive than compared to the guy more powerful. So you believe Batman's will is greater than Superman's.
We accept what's stated on panel. Thanos isn't in this thread and his feat is on par with Lucifer's. Thanos' will has never broken either. That's neither here nor there in comparing Lucifer to Superman. The feat I showed is more impressive than Superman's best. End of story. The sad part is you don't even comprehend the scan and haven't for days. It's impossible to debate with someone who doesn't grasp it.
It isn't questionable to anyone who grasps the meaning of words. You don't grasp it. Don't project your inabilities onto me.
The guy faced more adversity but his willpower alone isn't responsible for his success. That's the problem here. We don't know how strong either man's will is so you can't just use this example. Lucifer also faced huge adversity in his series. He was powerless a lot of the time and faced off against huge adversity while in such a state. So you want to ignore Lucifer's entire history here along with ignoring my scans as proof.
I am not here to educate you on simple definitions. You have shown you don't understand what will even is post after post. I myself have proven to grasp the series and the scans.
You always go off topic because you're incapable of debating on your own.
No, I am just pointing out in this particular thread you're all alone. You're trying to insult your way out of this thread but it isn't working.
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