If Superman is several times stronger than Thor by feats and she is close to Superman then that supports her being = or > than Thor in strength. If not, then what has Thor done (without the hammer) to make you think he is stronger than her?
Several times is pushing it and that's some horrendous ABC logic.
And for starters:
Deadlocked Savage Hulk in strength for an hour. Threaten to throw Earth out of orbit via arm wrestling Hercules. Whom has Diana stalemated or beaten in a direct comparison of strength on the same level as Hulk or Hercules?
I said, "BY FEATS". Since they never fought then we can only go by feats. I don't have a problem with Superman slightly >WW=Thor since speed and skill is my primary concern. Thor with the hammer>WW in practical strength since he can hit harder with the hammer than she can with her fists.
Most of her most impressive strength feats are shared feats such as moving Earth, the moon, picking up Spectre, etc. She does have some good stuff under her own power, but nothing that suggests she's stronger than Thor and not a whole lot to attempt to argue she's his equal, either.
Being a shared feat doesn't mean it's a non-feat. She held the Earth into orbit alongside Superman and J'onn. Even if you assume that Superman was contributing to half of everything, and J'onn being equal to Wonder Woman in strength (very generous) that still means that she has 1/4 of the strength necessary to do such a feat, and thus it makes her able to move other planets, like Mercury. The same with her feat of moving the moon into Earth's atmosphere and back, in a rather short period of time. The momentum of the moon and the implied speed to travel such distances would, again, send her in the planet-moving ballpark. Even without getting into the ridiculous 'supporting eternity' part. That is, of course, if you want to get into this type of feat-elaboration, without considering the writer's intent. I don't agree with this line of thinking, but I'm exposing it for the sake of the discussion, and because many of you do.
But if you go into writer's portrayal, you still won't get much against her. Baring Superman (against which Thor was also shown a clear strength inferiority, no matter how much anybody would try to diminish it), she still stalemates Captain Marvel. She still restrains Supergirl who was operating above standard Superman's level. She still breaks Mary Marvel's hand. If we get into actual, canon Marvel/DC comparisons, she's the one who's at least portrayed as a physical peer of Hercules. Who clearly outmatches Wonderman in strength, years on end. Who physically breaks out of Quasar's constructs.
I know it's hard to accept that she and Thor are roughly equals based on portrayals, but that's how it is. There's very few writers who'd make Thor the stronger of the two. I know it must hurt that it makes Thor clearly inferior in strength to Superman, but he is, and that's actually been shown in comics. The sooner you get over it, the better.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Sep 18th, 2011 at 01:43 PM
They didn't move the Earth, they were failing to keep it in orbit.
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Thanks it's been a while since I read any Wonder Woman.
I agree, you would be hard pressed to prove she is stronger these are feats Thor could replicate imo and has done in past years, the Midgard Serpent feat springs to mind.. She is probably roughly equal at best.
Have you ever actually contributed with anything substantial to the forum, other than being not-even-the-biggest-fan of a C-list character that a handful of people actually care about in any meaningful way?
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Thor didn't even move the Earth in the midgard Serpent feat. Thus it was under 1 Earth weight of force. Also, the boat helped pull Thor back (who knows how much).
Carver, that's a warning for you. Not just because you've been trolling, but because you've been trolling things you've been explicitly told not to, and making comments about the people on this forum.
Although this is a character's statement it just shows further evidence that WW and Thor should be at least peers in strength. This is more of a portrayal (as some members here mostly like to argue about instead of feats).
Now Thor can hit harder than WW because he has an Odin enchanted hammer to aid him. But my arguement is her speed and skill and one shot lasso advantage should give her the majority against Thor.
CA only can beat stronger foes who are very skill as well.
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Sep 18th, 2011 05:29 AM
weird.
