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xJLxKing
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This should have been closed. Instead it's open and fueling this belief


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This should have been closed. Instead it's open and fueling this belief
I don't see how it wasn't close the moment it was opened. This is almost having an abstract being fight two herald level beings. WTF is that?


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This is not just OWAW Superman but sundipped Superman. You know the being who overpowered thousands of galaxies of power.

There is no way he doesn't one shot ko or kill them (by accident).





"Thousands of galaxies of power"? erm

Care to back that statement up?

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I don't see how it wasn't close the moment it was opened. This is almost having an abstract being fight two herald level beings. WTF is that?
that's a good statement, do you think this superman beats wbh and
2 can he harm classic juggernaut?

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There is no way he doesn't one shot ko or kill them (by accident).





I can see Thor getting one shot.

Potentially, in too long and too violent an engagement, I could even see Odinson killed by Owawson. Loki, though ...?

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I think you underestimate just how much and powerful the magics surrounding this guy are. There are REASONS Loki is able to challenge Marvel's mightiest fighting team or teams on a regular basis ...

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Superman wins here, of course, and fairly easily. This particularly story was one of a handful where he showed how powerful he really can be.


Need me to break it down?


Sundipped Superman exponentially > Pissed undipped Superman > or = Doomsday[the final appearance of the real Doomsday] >>>Darkseid >> guys like Guardians, Zues, Odin, etc.[All of whom have admitted or shown inferiority.]

The misconception is still that these guys drop DOWN to Superman and peers bracket, when the truth is, when he means to, he moves UP to theirs.

At all other points, flying around Earth and shit?
He's holding back.

Because it might as well be made of paper and toothpicks.


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I think you underestimate just how much and powerful the magics surrounding this guy are. There are REASONS Loki is able to challenge Marvel's mightiest fighting team or teams on a regular basis ...


It was shown in comics that Loki can be koed by sufficient blunt force to the head. Thor rocked the shit out of Loki with one blow almost one shotting him. And this Superman is astronomically more powerful.

Brain bashing =/= severed head. Even Surfer survived being seperated into pieces (PIS IMO) but always is susceptible to being koed.

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that's a good statement, do you think this superman beats wbh and
2 can he harm classic juggernaut?


Yes

Thousands of galaxies of power>>>>>>>anything WBH has done

It is my opinion that classic Juggs can't be harmed physically. I believe He's absolutely indestructible to straight physical force.


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Superman wins here, of course, and fairly easily. This particularly story was one of a handful where he showed how powerful he really can be.


Need me to break it down?


Sundipped Superman exponentially > Pissed undipped Superman > or = Doomsday[the final appearance of the real Doomsday] >>>Darkseid >> guys like Guardians, Zues, Odin, etc.[All of whom have admitted or shown inferiority.]

The misconception is still that these guys drop DOWN to Superman and peers bracket, when the truth is, when he means to, he moves UP to theirs.

At all other points, flying around Earth and shit?
He's holding back.

Because it might as well be made of paper and toothpicks.


Lol...









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About Superman vs a magical BFR when he is awake it might play differently depending on his mental state.

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About illusions, He has other senses to compensate. Not saying it won't work, It could work, but that will depend on how actively he will be using his other senses.

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Wow. Before I gave Supes the physcial matches and Thor/Loki the exotic ones. I think I'll go with Supes for the majority having seen these.


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Sundipped Superman exponentially > Pissed undipped Superman > or = Doomsday[the final appearance of the real Doomsday] >>>Darkseid >> guys like Guardians, Zues, Odin, etc.[All of whom have admitted or shown inferiority.]
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Jun actually has a point.

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Superman was able to effortlessly shit-stomp Darkseid just by moving within close proximity of the sun for a matter of seconds(S/B #13.)

A literal sun-dip(ie. flying into the heart of the sun)>>> moving close to the sun>> Darkseid> lesser earthly Gods/deities.


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*I'm not comparing Marvel's Gods to DC's Gods, btw. Marvel has placed much more emphasis on their Gods over the years, thus they have naturally accumulated a LOT more(and a LOT better) feats by proxy.

However, I do believe that if, say, Marvel's Zeus and DC's Zeus were to appear in a comic together, they'd be portrayed as equals. /shrug


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*I'm not comparing Marvel's Gods to DC's Gods, btw. Marvel has placed much more emphasis on their Gods over the years, thus they have naturally accumulated a LOT more(and a LOT better) feats by proxy.

However, I do believe that if, say, Marvel's Zeus and DC's Zeus were to appear in a comic together, they'd be portrayed as equals. /shrug
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Darkseid himself has feats that put him firmly in the upper echalon of the skyfather tier. By proxy - the likes of Highfather, Ares, Zeus etc. are in similar tiers.


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*I'm not comparing Marvel's Gods to DC's Gods, btw. Marvel has placed much more emphasis on their Gods over the years, thus they have naturally accumulated a LOT more(and a LOT better) feats by proxy.

However, I do believe that if, say, Marvel's Zeus and DC's Zeus were to appear in a comic together, they'd be portrayed as equals. /shrug


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problem is no one ever acknowledges that fact because of what it means for darkseid. point of fact is, that darkseid himself has destroyed and absorbed the power of entire past pantheons. a ridiculous feat. at one point, odin (dc) was afraid of darkseid, and i would say the versions of odin are indeed equal--or close enough for the difference to be negligible.

anyway, superman wins this, and tbh i could very well see it as a stomp. :/


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Darkseid himself has feats that put him firmly in the upper echalon of the skyfather tier. By proxy - the likes of Highfather, Ares, Zeus etc. are in similar tiers.
He also had more feats which put him below that level


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problem is no one ever acknowledges that fact because of what it means for darkseid. point of fact is, that darkseid himself has destroyed and absorbed the power of entire past pantheons. a ridiculous feat. at one point, odin (dc) was afraid of darkseid, and i would say the versions of odin are indeed equal--or close enough for the difference to be negligible.
Maybe it's because they're too distracted by Darkseid trading wins and losses with high heralds and Trans-level characters in straight-up fights.

If Odin got his butt beat by Surfer, or rapestomped by Thanos in straight-up fights on occasion, well... let's just say most people's respect for him would probably lessen also. And extrapolating by proxy across comic universes to excuse this Odin wouldn't really cure that attitude. Which is just a long-winded way of saying this:
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He also had more feats which put him below that level
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