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Ushgarak
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I thought Thin Red Line was better than Saving Private Ryan. Guess it's a taste thing.
BTW, what do you mean by 're-wrote' history from SPR, KJ? I mean, the story wasn't actually true, to be sure, but that's hardly re-writing.
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Aug 26th, 2001 12:46 PM |
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Well you know what I mean. In SPR they made it look like it was only America who was fighting the Nazis. It's a great film but if there had even been just a few other countries in it, it would probably be my favourite war film.
I hated The Thin Red Line with a passion because it tried to be too clever. It's a war film, it's not meant to look nice. He was trying to say "look at this beautiful scenery and all the terrible things that humans are doing to it", but it didn't work.
LanceWindu The Great Escape is a really good film about allied soldiers trying to break out of a German POW camp.
And Zulu is for me, the best British film ever made. It's not a WW2 film but it's about how around 200 British Red Coats held off 4000 Zulu warriors in Africa. What's great about it is that the film is basically one big battle and the whole story takes place during it.
You should really try and see it.
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Ushgarak
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While it is always nice to see international war efforts, I think it should be remembered that Saving Private Ryan was NOT The Longest Day; it wasn't telling the D-Day story but instead the story of a small group of American soldiers. Most such soliders wouldn't have seen a Brit, Canadian or Frenchman throughout the entire campaign (and certainly none anywhere NEAR Omaha beach...); I don't think the movie should have had to stretch things just to make the story more multi-national than it had to be.
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Aug 26th, 2001 01:40 PM |
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KJ
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Streching things?
There were more non-American soldiers in that country than American. In SPR they run into the same German soldier 3 times. If that's possible then it's possible that they might run into another allied army.
I know it was an American story and I don't have a problem with that. But even if they had mentioned us it would have been more beleivable.
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Ushgarak
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It IS stretching things, because the different nationalities rarely mixed, while one thing they ALL did was meet Germans.
And they did talk about us, when they mentioned Monty and his slow advance on Caen.
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Aug 26th, 2001 02:03 PM |
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KJ
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Wow! I'm sure the millions that died would be very gratefull.
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Aug 26th, 2001 02:31 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Millions of who? Not Brits, certainly; this wasn't WWI.
Well, I think having the allies there would have seemed forced and added nothing to the story.
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Aug 26th, 2001 02:34 PM |
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mah
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why discuss details? the film was to friggin' america-friendly anyways. it sucked.
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Aug 26th, 2001 06:32 PM |
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KJ
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Millions of non-American soldiers who were completly ignored.
Have you seen the DVD? In the documentary they keep going on about how this was America standing up against fascism. No mention of anyone else.
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Aug 26th, 2001 07:09 PM |
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They should have added a little bit more to the story about what was happening else where during the war.
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Aug 26th, 2001 09:16 PM |
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Ushgarak
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If the DVD commentary is historically unbalanced, then I would certainly join ranks and criticise it.
The film itself, however, has no need to be cosmopolitan. Longest Day had done that already (and very well, too).
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Aug 26th, 2001 10:15 PM |
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KJ
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I've never seen The Longest Day.
The SPR DVD is very unbalanced and so are all the documentaries I've seen on it. It makes me feel left out. As if it wasn't made for anyone outside the U.S
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Aug 27th, 2001 01:27 PM |
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phinney6
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What do you guys think of "The Battle of the Bulge"
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Aug 28th, 2001 02:29 PM |
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KJ
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I've never seen it.
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Aug 28th, 2001 02:51 PM |
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phinney6
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I have not seen it in such a long time..but i remember liking it
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Aug 28th, 2001 02:56 PM |
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Viseus
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The best war movie ever is Stalingrad. It really tells the true story of what war is like. None of that american hero bullshit.
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Sep 7th, 2001 01:22 PM |
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mah
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true
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jayride
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Has no one considered the brillant genius of Casualties of War?(please log in to view the image)
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Aug 13th, 2002 09:23 PM |
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hmmm faivourite movies....i have 2 and can't think wich one is better:
Pulp fiction and fight club.......damn....now those are movies
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Aug 14th, 2002 01:03 PM |
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Thomas H
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Black Hawk Down!
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