I actually think that Xavier's powers are more highly trained. MM may have the powers, but we have never seen all of them exhibited. He could have them dormantly stored, and a single battle wit Xavier would not release all of them. Also, MM does have some telepathic might, but when he fights, he uses his Martian Vison (or w/e its called), his strength, and other powers besides his telepathy. If he were to fight without using his other skills, he wuld be at a loss of experience. Where as Xavier has had to rely on his telepathic powers as his core weapon. He uses them frequently, and has become known as a prominant telepathic icon, who many people suspect is the strongest telepath. My vote is for Xavier.
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just because MM's society has been doing telapathic things for thousands of years doesnt mean hes a better telepath. example, the asgaurdians have been using huge amounts of physical strength for a hell of a long time, and hulk when he was only created for a few years surpassed basicaly all of them in physical strength.
marvels telepaths are much much stronger than DC's, please give me an example of MM doing anything close to X's level
wrong!!!!! about marvel's telepaths that is. we have seen time and time agin that dc operates on a riducoulsly more powerful level that that of marvel plus chuck has admitted ooon many occasions that the only ppl in the enitire world's mind that he cant read or have any major effect on are shape shifters, and those who can beome intangilbe (even if thry are not using the power at the time). has he has said about mystique and shadowcat. in fact he has conceded this to them on many occasions
and guess what? MM has both powers down
for the record supessucks i never said that MM was more powerful than phoenix, just charley
? when did Xavier say he cannot use his powers against shapeshifters and intangables? He mentally probed Sprite (modern day shadowcat) and can knockout Mystique with a mental bolt. I havent seen DC operate on such a "ridiculously greater" power scale. Phoenix absorbed a star; Galactus and Destroyer are far more powerful than Superman; Surfer is just as fast as Flash; Hulk destroyed an astroid twice earth's size; what does DC do that's so much more powerful?
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Well, Superman blew out a star with his breathe once, and I've already mentioned the whole planet juggling and sneezing away a solar system trick. And we won't even mention Flash.
As I said, Phoenix consumed multiple stars, and Galactus eats planets for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And let's not even mention Thanos, or Silver Surfer.
Sprite? dude thats a weak ass argument if i ever heard one. the last time kitty referred to herself as sprite was back in the 80's dude.......the 80's!(at least as far as i remember). contrary to what you might have believed ,once intangible ktty's mind cannot be read or her scent cannot be picked up. xavier said this himself when he sent her along with the team to do some recon(cant remember what issue) he said something to the effect of,"what better person to send than one who's mind cannot be read." and if you remember in ultimate x men. the one where wolverine tried to kill scott when she snuck along for the ride she hid in the back of the jet and wolvie couldnt smell her while she was in shift.
as for mystique
mystique #1. direct quote from xavier
"Mystique eludes most coventional forms of detection, and i am unable to get a telepathic lock on her ever shifting gray matter."
issue:2 xavier and forge try to locate mystique. another direct quote
"my telepathic abilities remain useless in locating mystique herself, so i am forced to rely on ppl who may have seen her.......i have scanned more than 30000 minds in the area you suggested, and i have yet to uncover a single eye witness."
issue #3 after finding and rescuing mystique she does not believe it is charles xavier though she denies being involved in a terroist attack
mystique: im not lying, Xavier!, Go ahead read my mind
X: you know full well that your powers prevent me from doing that mystique. And even if i could, your mind is not a place i long to visit.
after they get to one of xaviers safe houses
X:........future breifings will be handled telepathically.
M: how ? i thought your powers didnt click with mine
X: i am unable to divine your thoughts or where abouts, and i cannot control your actions, but communication is possible over short distances
lets jump all the way to issue #7 everyone meets up at the house M is staying. she jokingly offers to lecture chuck's students on ethics. chuck gets mad. direct quote
"If you ever set foot within 500 yards of my institute you will live just long enough to regret it. you maybe one of the few mutants alive who's mind i cannot read, but that does not mean i am unable to harm you.!"
the harming part would make sense seeing as she is just a mutant but i highly doubt he could do the same thing to a high order psychic like J'onn.
tee hee Sprite..........that one actually made me laff
dude first of all, in your infinte wisdom it must occur to you that any asteroid thats twice as big as earth are otherwise known as planets. secondly an asteroid by definintion is a small celestial body between planets. as far as a greater scale, dude your pulling cosmic beings out of your ass man. charcters who are understandly that powerful. there are regular ppl in dc with that kind of power.
how about Dr. polaris(magento ripoff) who while hopped up on joker gas turned himself into the north pole and was shifting the earths planetry axis, and the eqautor as he was moving along. something mags could only dream of doing under his own power
how about when superman flew so fast in one direction he sucked the air out of everybodys lungs and knocked them out. he did that twice by my count most recently when he fought against those ripoffs of the charcters in the Authority.
and how about the fact the just about every single major JLA /JSA villain waves power on a planetary scale, some universal. and they have to deal with ALL these ppl at some point or another. its like every next issue they face off against another universal destroyer, while in marvel one team pretty much gets one big bad guy to deal with, then its back to foiling bank robberies, terrorist acts, and mad scientists.
FF=galactus, then back to third rate villans
X-men=dark phoenix, magneto
Hulk=Abomination,militatry guys who want his blood to make a clone army, absorbing man sometimes
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