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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Xplosive
''Evil, I am not malevolant, I simply am.''
yeah yeah I remember him saying that...see that proves it...would Apocalypse lie?
May 12th, 2005 07:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mainstream
regular Apoc..the superhero..he's not evil he just is. think about it like this you have a yard and you got weeds in it...you get rid of the weeds to make the yard look better right..make the yard a better place. The world is a yard...Apocalypse is the gardener that get rid of the weak and worthless or weeds..he's the most powerful and the alpha mutant so it's only fair he rule..he wants to make the world a better place..sure those he don't kill will be his slaves but that's the price we'll have to pay for a better tomorrow. Calling Apoc evil would be like calling someone who cuts grass evil...He's not evil he just is. heh heh heh heh
That's crap and you know it. That's how i thought at the beginnig before the whole Cable thing. I said to myself: The guy's seen the future. he knows the latent x-genes will turn all humans into mutants eventually. He's speeding things up. That STILL makes him a murderer. Not as bad as Hitler but not far off. And even if that's not bad enough, if he's just an "instrument of destiny" as he calls himself, why does he become emperor and turn everyone (nearly) into his slaves huh?
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May 12th, 2005 07:04 PM
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don't think of it as being a slave..thing of it as him controlling you and you having to serve him.
May 12th, 2005 07:12 PM
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Who cares, he is pure evil and that's why he has to go...Cable.
If Apocalypse is indeed the personification of evil, it may be impossible to destroy him. The conflict between good and evil is part of the fabric of existence. Perhaps the world cannot exist without Apocalypse...said by Beast in cartoon. Anyway, Apocalypse in cartoon is on whole different level as in comic.
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May 12th, 2005 07:13 PM
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okay he's evil but if Cable "destroys" him won't that make him even more evil. heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
May 12th, 2005 07:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wickerman
"I am......EVOLUTION....i have seen the future and tremble blond winged helmet short man, for destiny is upon you. It is now that OW WHAT THA!!!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT HAMMER MADE OUT OF ?????!!!!?!?!?!?"
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May 12th, 2005 07:22 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mainstream
okay he's evil but if Cable "destroys" him won't that make him even more evil. heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
No, since Apocalypse is pure evil, he is that evil and cannot cease to exist.
May 12th, 2005 07:22 PM
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yeah yeah Xplosive! he can't die he is enternal!
May 12th, 2005 07:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mainstream
yeah yeah Xplosive! he can't die he is enternal!
He can't die, just because he is pure evil, eternal evil, such evil just can't die, he is evil to the core.
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May 12th, 2005 07:29 PM
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so he's not nice at all is that what your saying. he's like " beat up old people and take thier money evil" huh?
May 12th, 2005 07:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mainstream
so he's not nice at all is that what your saying. he's like " beat up old people and take thier money evil" huh?
Yes, he is simply pure evil, anyway he lives up to that evil in both cartoon, in comic, not really.
May 12th, 2005 07:38 PM
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damn writers they got people thinking Apocalypse is weaker than Magneto and Thor....imagine my surprise and rage.
May 12th, 2005 07:42 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, he is simply pure evil, anyway he lives up to that evil in both cartoon, in comic, not really.
THAT is also crap. he's a being, not an entity. he has to hop from host to host to survive. he's not a concept. By defeating Apocalypse you're not destroying evil, you're destroying an infinitely small part of evil.
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May 12th, 2005 07:42 PM
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nah the dude evil given form Hank..Beast said so and that blue furry bastard knows everything.
May 12th, 2005 07:45 PM
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May 12th, 2005 07:46 PM
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Evil and Good are abstract notions even in the Marvel Universe. Apocalypse is most definitely not an incarnation of evil. If you ask me, serial killers in America are worse than the guy. He IS evil, VERY evil, but that doesn't make him a proxie of the concept.
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May 12th, 2005 07:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wickerman
THAT is also crap. he's a being, not an entity. he has to hop from host to host to survive. he's not a concept. By defeating Apocalypse you're not destroying evil, you're destroying an infinitely small part of evil.
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I think Apocalypse is one of the most evil beings ever creted in Marvel Universe, you cannot negotiate with him, if he will, he will betray you and try to kill you later. He is evil to the core, He is more evil than Thanos, imagine if Apocalypse would succed in Heart of the Universe, I don't think he would gave up this pwoer, he would make LT his slave and all others. Apocalypse donesn't need host body to surive (his essence will live), he won't die, it was thought Cable finally shattertd his essene forever, well guess Apocalypse is coming back.
May 12th, 2005 07:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mainstream
nah the dude evil given form Hank..Beast said so and that blue furry bastard knows everything.
Well, like I said, it was said for Apocalypse in cartoon, and cartoon Apocalypse is on different level as in comic.
May 12th, 2005 07:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Xplosive
I think Apocalypse is one of the most evil beings ever creted in Marvel Universe, you cannot negotiate with him, if he will, he will betray you and try to kill you later. He is evil to the core, He is more evil than Thanos, imagine if Apocalypse would succed in Heart of the Universe, I don't think he would gave up this pwoer, he would make LT his slave and all others. Apocalypse donesn't need host body to surive (his essence will live), he won't die, it was thought Cable finally shattertd his essene forever, well guess Apocalypse is coming back.
One of the Most evil beings <> Evil incarnated. And if you ask me, Mephisto aka Mephistopheles could teach Apc many things about being evil.
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May 12th, 2005 07:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wickerman
Evil and Good are abstract notions even in the Marvel Universe. Apocalypse is most definitely not an incarnation of evil. If you ask me, serial killers in America are worse than the guy. He IS evil, VERY evil, but that doesn't make him a proxie of the concept.
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In cartoon he is presented as incarnation of evil and he lived up to that (by almost destroying evey part of reality) in comic it's different. But don't compare seriall killer to Apocalypse.
May 12th, 2005 07:51 PM
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