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Cosmic Cube
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Why is Maestro even on that team? He is no threat whatsoever. Classic Juggernaut isn't 8th day Juggernaut. He isn't a threat either. The heroes will trounce these guys.

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Am I the only one who noticed the Asgardian destroyer? Seeing as how smart these villains are, couldn't they just pile in that thing... I'm sure PC-darkseid and Thanos combined would be enough power alone to take all but the phoenixes, and the other's power would further augment them enough to take them... possibly. I mean, Onslaught DOES have reality altering powers, with enough power I'm sure the armor would just change reality itself to ignore Phoenixes' powers...

Then again, I might be wrong about the armor.


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well scarlet witch can also change reality, but not sure on onslauts level. although in house of M she is shaping the world over and over again. it may seem like a different reality but it's not

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the X-Men when all added together have had like 150 members.

the JLA when all added together have had like 150 members also.

the Avengers when all added together have had like 200 members.

The JLA/Avengers/X-Men win. They'd juist gang up on them since they have so many more people on their side.


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wasn't silver surfer with the avengers once or am I thinking if a different team?

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Your probably thinking of the Defenders.

I think the bad guys could take this. It will probably come down to DP vs the bad guys yes

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oh yeah defenders, well yeah tht was it. well the good guys have some pretty powerful people

superman
phoenix(jean grey)
phoenix(rachel grey)
maybe dark phoenix
magneto
scarlet witch
binary(who is as good if not better than silver surfer)
martain manhunter
flash
zatanna
moondragon

not to mention the combined leadership skills of captain america, batman, cyclops, and storm.

and the x-men have people who affect luck to put the fight in their favor(domino and longshot) and scarlet witch who can affect reality and probability fields. and the combined telepathic might of martain manhunter, xavier, all three phoenixes, psylock, emma frost, moondragon(at one point could access the uni-mind and had some powerful gam that i can't remember the name of). and the have zatanna who has no limit to her powers

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also rachel is able to enhance people's powers, well storms at least. she could easily enhance storms powers to maybe god-like level

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Originally posted by armandovalles
the X-Men when all added together have had like 150 members.


And how many of them can survive the PC Omega Effect? It hits its intended target. How many of them can resist mindcontrol from either PC Darkseid and Onslaught. I'd only Jean & Rachael. Then again, PC Darkseid has controlled Dark Phoenix before. Sure DP broke free, but that was only at the end - she didn't break it instantly.

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the JLA when all added together have had like 150 members also.


Yes, 150 post crisis members. Pre-Crisis JLA feared PC Darkseid. Post Crisis JLA are in trouble as well. Alot of them are gonna have trouble with Onslaught & Darkseid's mindcontrol. Not many of them are gonna survive or be standing after an attack from Thanos, Imperiex, Destroyer, Onslaught, & PC Darkseid.

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the Avengers when all added together have had like 200 members.

The JLA/Avengers/X-Men win. They'd juist gang up on them since they have so many more people on their side. [/B]


Most would get mindwiped or OE out.

Villains:
Imperiex - killed Doomsday in one attack. Most heroes aren't living through his attack.
Thanos - he's put down heralds with his attack. How many heroes can take him out or be standing after his attack.
Destroyer Armor - his disintegrator beam would kill most heroes. How many heroes can stop him?
PC Darkseid - OE, mindcontrol, above Pre-Crisis Superman in durability & power.
Onslaught - EMP would take down most heroes with techs. Mindcontrol. Magneto can create a blackhole? Onslaught created a second sun; I have no doubt he can shut down Magnus' blackhole.

Kurse - he stomped both Thor & Bill. Needed Mjlnornir & Stormbreaker + Power Pack full energy to knock him out.
Doomsady - Superman needed to kill himself to take out DD.
Gladiator - um, so who's going to fight him? Superman or Thor? CM?
Count Neferia - another team level threat.
Maestro - another one. Who Superman? Thor? Hulk?
Pre-Crisis Valdius - how many heroes can really hurt him or survive his attack?
Mangog - with all the hatred by the villains & some by the heroes, Mangog gets a power up. You'd need a skyfather atleast to take out him.
Juggernaut - not much, but your still going to need class 100 or so take slug it out. Mindwipe might work, then again Onslaught might just intervene.

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stormfront13 also rachel is able to enhance people's powers, well storms at least. she could easily enhance storms powers to maybe god-like level


Um that's nice, but she's still getting mindraped. And I doubt she would survive a blast from Imperiex. Thanos would stomp her easily.

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Onslaught created a second sun;
Using Franklin Richards powers, not really his own. Once Franklin was away from Onslaught, he didn't have those kind of abilities.

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Using Franklin Richards powers, not really his own. Once Franklin was away from Onslaught, he didn't have those kind of abilities.

FR powers was Onslaught

If he didn't have X , mag , etc power he would be much

Onslaught is what he is.

don't see it's not his powers as an excuse

Onslaught has powers of : mag , X , Fr etc


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FR powers was Onslaught

If he didn't have X , mag , etc power he would be much

Onslaught is what he is.

don't see it's not his powers as an excuse

Onslaught has powers of : mag , X , Fr etc
But that was only when he had Franklin that he created the sun. . .

He's still nasty, but all I'm saying is that the sun creation thing was only when he had Franklin inside of him.

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Pre-Crisis Darkseid mindcontrolled 3 billion Daxamites while fighting off two Pre-Crisis Kryptonians powered by Highfather. Daxamite = Kryptonian.

Now, I doubt he'd have much problem with a few hundred heros. He's also getting assistance from Onslaught who ain't too shabby with mindcontrolling people either.


technically Onslaught was also a member of the X-Men..... as he never handed in his resignation when he emerged..... he gets cancelled out

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But that was only when he had Franklin that he created the sun. . .

He's still nasty, but all I'm saying is that the sun creation thing was only when he had Franklin inside of him.

yes Franklin was part of On at one time.

so Ons can do what frank can do as well.


so Mag + X + Frank + etc = Ons


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technically Onslaught was also a member of the X-Men..... as he never handed in his resignation when he emerged..... he gets cancelled out

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He did resign smile

By hurting good guys, he is immediately kicked out of the X-men.


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technically Onslaught was also a member of the X-Men..... as he never handed in his resignation when he emerged..... he gets cancelled out

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He doesn't hand in anything. Without Xavier or Magneto, there would be no X-Men. Technically, they are his team. The X-Men are on the wrong side.

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He did resign smile

By hurting good guys, he is immediately kicked out of the X-men.


Wolverine hurts people all the time.... and people don't force him to resign...... good guys get Sentry.... right?..... why not the Fantastic Four


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yes Franklin was part of On at one time.

so Ons can do what frank can do as well.


so Mag + X + Frank + etc = Ons
So if you control someone then they are a part of you? erm

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So if you control someone then they are a part of you? erm

? what


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? what
Onslaught only used FR's powers when FR was inside him. When FR was removed he didn't use any of FR's powers. Fr's powers are not part of Onslaught.

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