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DeVi| D0do
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THX1138 and American Graffiti are both great films. I'd love to see him do more films like these. Of course, in recent years there is no evidence to support the fact that he is even able to make films like this anymore... but I have faith in him, albeit it may be blind faith.


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Lucas is a great director. no one can match the imagination of his films. Not even lotr can be compare to Lucas work. you people are idiots for bashing George.


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Maybe if you gave some rational explanations I would respect your opinions...


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I just did. Lucas is a creative genious. what more do you want?


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Oh, of course, a creative genius. How could I have forgotten? How silly of me.

'Lucas is a creative genious' is a statement, numbnuts, not an explanation.

*sigh*


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Lucas is a great director. no one can match the imagination of his films. Not even lotr can be compare to Lucas work. you people are idiots for bashing George.


His "imagination" can be matched easily. Consider all the sources he borrowed from, then ask Ralph McQuarrie to design the characters. Nobodies bashing Lucas, we're giving opinions. You refer to anyone as anything else, without respecting opinions, I'll have you banned.

This is your final warning.

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Oh, of course, a creative genius. How could I have forgotten? How silly of me.

'Lucas is a creative genious' is a statement, numbnuts, not an explanation.

*sigh*


No need to resort to insults. Be civil.

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I just did. Lucas is a creative genious. what more do you want?


Genius? I know it's an opinion, but without supporting evidence, I find it hard to believe. He's an opportunist who adapted a lot of things from a lot of sources into a Sci Fi movie.

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Lucas borrowed his ideas from many different sources of which without there would be no story... But then so do most people. I think there are very few truly unique and create people, a lot of the work is plagiarised (in the loosest sense of the word.)

But I think George's ability to integrate these ideas and themes is great.

I've said this before, but probably what I admire most about George is his ability to keep his films his own. He's taken a lot of crap for some of the decisions he's made and yet he keeps on making these decisions. In the end he has come out with films he can really call his own. And that I think is an admirable thing.


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When someone's trying to define Lucas as a "genius", and an intregal part of his works are mostly borrowed, the opinion is virtually invalid. I don't get how his movies are his own, aside from him having full creative control over them, which apparently hasn't been a good thing. I mean, aside from writing/directing/producing..what is it worth to make something your own, but only care about one thing in particular? Well, two. Money and special effects, sacrificing the heart and soul of the movies being the acting and dialogue?

To me, it's worthless.

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I agree, I wouldn't call Lucas a 'genius'.

What I was really getting at was that really he doesn't care about what the critics etc. say. He's has continued to make these films the way he wants to. And I'm not saying that that's neccessarily a good thing, but it's admirable I think when these days you have so many studios being at the helm of movies.

But then that really has nothing to do with how good a director he is so I guess that's beside the point...

Now, I of course don't personally know George, but I really don't think money is a great objective of his. And in terms of him sacrificing the acting and dialogue I do knida agree. Though for a different reason. He has always said that his movies are not about the dialogue, but about the visuals and music and that these films could be viewed as silent films with just the images and music. Now, here is where I think perhaps one of his biggest mistakes with the Prequels is. Because the thing is, the dialogue IS important. When you have a scene with two people talking in a meadow for two minutes, the dialogue HAS to be important. And I just don't think he understand that.


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We're thinking alike then. The dialogue WAS a hell of a lot better in ROTS, but it was just too little, too late. I don't know what it was that got into him to make such a drastic change, just wish it were sooner. Like, 1999 sooner.

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Re: Do you think George Lucas is a good director????

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I personally think he suks, hes probabbly the greatest movie maker of all times and one hell of a producer, but as a director... jees he really sucks.


Define sucks..........If you were writing your senior thesis about the movie industry, and all you had to state and back up your opinion is that "I think he sucks, and this guy on the KMC forums says he sucks too", well then that my friend..sucks.

Define sucks....If you think he sucks at what he does just because you are unhappy with star wars, well that is pretty shitty and fanboyish to be saying shit like that like you are the know all-be all of movies.

So do me a favor......Define sucks


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as a visionary, he's great...

as a director he's sadly lacking imo...

its no coincidence that the best movie of the saga was directed by somebody else...

some of the direction in rots was awful imo... way too many close ups... yes we can see anakin is conflicted... i don't need to see his nosehair you twit...


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George being a "creative Genius" has nothing to do with his skills to direct a movie, whish by the3 way is exactly what a director do, and the subject of this thread, his "creative genius" has never been questioned.
But comparing it to TLOR??? Really you must thing TLOR is a movie some fat boy from new zealand just came up with.
Completly different stories in completely different envoirments written whith 100 years of difference, cīmon, get real.


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I think at one time he was a very good director.He did after all direct the original Star Wars A New Hope which is not only still my favorite star wars movie of all time but also my favorite movie of all time,but sometime after Empire Strikes Back,he lost it though.His magic touch he had as a director, and he came up with all these weird and stupid ideas for movies.Even his last star wars movie he made which was the first Star Wars film he made which I liked since Empire,it still doesnt have the same magic and feel which Lucas gave us for the first two star wars films, A New Hope and Empire.


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Lucas didn't direct ESB, just for the record.

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Yeah I know he didn't direct it but he just didnt have the same great ideas anymore for Star Wars films that he still possessed while Empire was being filmed.I know that Irvin Kirshner who directed Empire Strikes Back said that he was extremely very dissapointed with Return of the jedi with the story and everything so you got to put the blame on Lucas for not coming up with something much better than what he did come up with for the ending Of Jedi.


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I agree with what someone else put. He is a great director, even if he has flaws.

Cinemaddiction,
Apparently he's going to be producing Idiana Jones 4 and directing a film called Red Tails, which is about African American fighter pilots during World War 2. Sounds pretty far from your coment about him doing just Star Wars related projects.


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Spielberg's directing Indy 4, if it happens. "Redtails" will fall in place right behind the live action SW TV show he has planned, and the new Clone Wars cartoons.

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Um some say that Georgy boy's specail effects in Star Wars where so very revolutionary, buta in fact wasint it Stanley Kubrick's use of specail effects in 2001 Speace Odyssey that where the real revolution, not the once in Star Wars? surely some of you know that

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