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Wanderer259
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he gets a day's rest.

and he has his belt so its feasible.
Absolutely not.

[quote]bats and shiva have similar skill, but hes stronger than she is and will overpower her.


Shiva is far more skilled than Batman is and no degree of strength save for the superhuman kind, is going to factor in here much.

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azrael is a good fight. but hes not in bats league. bats's skill puts az down with some blows to the head. az may get in a few blows.


Azrael not in Batman's league? Again, you're overestimating Batman's hand-to-hand skills as it's the other way around. With the System, especially if he has a sword in hand or his daggers, Azrael is far more able than Batman. They've already fought... and Batman got trashed.

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Agreed. I don't think he'd get past Shiva, but if he did, he'd be in NO condition to get past Killer Croc.


he gets rest ya know

just because hes in a fight doesnt mean he'll get hit. he fights smarter and not harder


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Shiva is far more skilled than Batman is and no degree of strength save for the superhuman kind, is going to factor in here much.



Azrael not in Batman's league? Again, you're overestimating Batman's hand-to-hand skills as it's the other way around. With the System, especially if he has a sword in hand or his daggers, Azrael is far more able than Batman. They've already fought... and Batman got trashed.




nonsense...in "a death in the family" batman beat shiva to unconsciousness

bats will take down az. he'll go with the nerve strikes and teargas.


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he gets rest ya know

just because hes in a fight doesnt mean he'll get hit. he fights smarter and not harder


That's very true, but this is Shiva that you're trying to argue against. She is, save perhaps Richard Dragon, the best. THE best. She will hurt Batman and she's an incredibly skilled assassin and thus his gas, etc. will do little to help his situation.

I don't think he'd beat Shiva, but for the sake of argument, we'll say he does. Realistically, he should be trashed and no matter what sort of super meditation techniques Batman employs, a day of recuperation simply won't be enough against someone as dangerous as Killer Croc. If he did, then he'd definitely fall at Bane.

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nonsense...in "a death in the family" batman beat shiva to unconsciousness


Bad writing, IMO.

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just like in the comics then, Bane wil BREEAAAAK him


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bane knew that he couldnt beat batman in a one n one so he initiated nightfall.


bane goes down.


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bane knew that he couldnt beat batman in a one n one so he initiated nightfall.


Yeah, he wore him down.

Which is exactly what's happening here with a gauntlet.

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Bane is much smarter than people give him credit for


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I know he is a great tactican


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he gets rest ya know

just because hes in a fight doesnt mean he'll get hit. he fights smarter and not harder


Are you trying to say he can beat Shiva without getting hit?!?!?! I don't think Batman can beat Shiva in a no-prep situation, even at full power, much less after several days of fighting. Shiva has schooled Batman. More than once.


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Are you trying to say he can beat Shiva without getting hit?!?!?! I don't think Batman can beat Shiva in a no-prep situation, even at full power, much less after several days of fighting. Shiva has schooled Batman. More than once.


no no no. i meant before shiva.
the ppl who came before her, bats can beat w/o taking serious damage. i know how lethal shiva is.


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That's fine. And given that it's the crappy Batgirl instead of the good one, I can buy that somewhat. But you really think he can beat both Shiva and Croc on successive days, without prep?


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croc's lack of intelligence dilutes his fighting ability and strength somewhat, he would be a much more challenging opponent if he had more human brain than croc brain


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he has 24 hrs to prep and rest remember?

and if he has his utility belt, and he knows whats in it and they dont, he immediately has an advantage. he could even keep a tear gas pellet in his hands so that when he hit one of them, it broke and gassed them immediately. rememebr bats fights dirty.


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he has 24 hrs to prep and rest remember?

and if he has his utility belt, and he knows whats in it and they dont, he immediately has an advantage. he could even keep a tear gas pellet in his hands so that when he hit one of them, it broke and gassed them immediately. rememebr bats fights dirty.


Not at all - prep wasn't mentioned anywhere.

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but it says he has his belt, and that stuff is always in it.


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if he was beltless, this thread would be different.


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I've read Nightfall. Batman doesn't make it past #6....maybe #7 if he's lucky.

That series was the best I've read because it really showed Batman's only weakness....he's human.


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in nightfall he also had no rest. he never slept. he only got rest the day before the gala.


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