Honey, Wonder Woman is much stronger than Namor. She can lift well beyond a measly 200,000 tons. Namor lifted a aircraft carrier? So what? She's been lifting city-size spaceships for ages.
Namor is nowhere near WW's skill? About century of experience? So what? Diana has milleniums of experience. And she's forgotten more battles than Namor has ever experienced.
How the hell do you think Champ would lose to ANYONE in a fist fight?
Odin, Tyrant, Jesus, Moses.....he's more experienced and stronger than all of these.
Champ's strength is by most accounts limitless, and he's older than them all and has fought more than them all.
I never said Champ lost to Thing, i just said the Thing gave him a fight. Also, the She-Hulk mini-series was not a joke, it was considered by many to be one of the best mini-series to come out in a long time. Also, Champ got his ass handed to him by Thanos and Thanos wasnt even using any powers, but rather beating Champ down at his own game, H2H.
Superman edges them all out in strength, speed and endurance, but Captain Marvel's magical nature gives him the edge over Supes. Captain Marvel is winner and Superman is runner up.
Wonder Woman is only shades below Superman, I think, so she emerges as the clear winner. On the other hand, the spot for runner up is going to be Ben Grimm. I think he's got more experience with the art of boxing then the other characters combined.
Of these, only Terry McGuiness, Spider-Man and Wolverine have above-human strength. However, Batman 2.0's inexperience takes him out of the game early. Since Wolverine's claws are barred, he loses his edge against Spider-Man. However, the adamantium reinforcement in his knuckles wins him runner up, behind Spider-Man as winner.
For each weight class pick the winner and runner up. Remember, this is a BOXING match, not an all out fight. [/B][/QUOTE]
Super Heavyweight:
Odin has the best chance of winning.
Heavy Weight:
Why Silver Surfer. Then Superman. Then Thor.
Middle Weight:
Wonder Woman and Wonder Man will probably tie. Iron Man has brains and brawns but doesn't have enough brain to counter heavy brawns. I'm going with The Thing.
Light Weight:
Azrael, Captain America, and Wolverine fight the best. Captain America has the most experience, Wolverine has the most power, and Azrael.. well.. Azrael is pretty tough. I think Captain America wins in the end.
Thanos blasted him over and over and over but it didn't effect him, so he just kept dodging and putting up his own and his spacecraft's shield to block Champ's punches. Thanos hit him once or twice and then when Champ was about to deliver the last blow, Thanos left and Champ punched the planet into tiny pieces. Then Thanos tricked Champ into giving him the gem.
Thanos fought like that because he KNEW he couldn't fight Champ h2h and win. No one can.
Thing didn't give him any sort of a fight, Champ almost killed him.
Arm, how is it that you never know what you're talking about? Is it some sort of a disease?
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"Namor is nowhere near WW's skill? About century of experience? So what? Diana has milleniums of experience. And she's forgotten more battles than Namor has ever experienced"
She has at much - a- millenia of experience on a certain story. Out of that Namor is much more experinced both inside the comics world, and outside of it by appearances since his creation. And that last part its scretching alot.
While i totally agree Wonder Woman belongs in the tier above, lets not get - that - far. Namor isent far from it either.
"Thing didn't give him any sort of a fight, Champ almost killed him."
While there was no doubt who was the best in that story, lets not dismiss Thing. He broke Champions ribs. He couldnt do more and got almost killed, i agree. But Thing did hurt him. The reason i gave KT the win its because of his figthing prowess, skills and ability to amp his strenght as well as heal everything the others can dish at him. Champion is a serious contender. Odin is another of course, but in pure grappling and boxing skills hes not above Thor.
"Batman Beyond is stronger and more durable than batman"
Your talking about the suit, not physical stats. If so i agree.
"Superman edges them all out in strength, speed and endurance, but Captain Marvel's magical nature gives him the edge over Supes. Captain Marvel is winner and Superman is runner up"
You have people there who can match him. Marvel being one. Hulk -can- exceed him and averyone else (strenghwtise). Hercules can match him. Gladiator also and by some he exceeds Supes the same way. Since this is a contest of skills + strenght i picked the one i did.
As an example WW recently going against Superman who she is weaker of, won the fight with her strengh and skills. Its a powerful combo. Someone slighty weaker or on a roughy equal footing and using skills will do the same she did.
Interestlngly tho, Supes, Hulk and Marvel are the ones who less show pure skills compared with the others. And having less rep with them as well.
Last edited by olympian on Aug 9th, 2005 at 10:51 AM
The She-Hulk VS Champion comic was probably the worst bad writing ever. Please, a guy who has trained since the universe was created loses to a character that has trained perhaps ten years.
Actually i just pretty much always know what im talking about. Thing did give him a fight, Ben broke both his ribs and his jaw in that fight as stated by the narrator, so in my opinion that makes it a fight.
And the part about Champ and Thanos, i dont actually have the comic, so i wouldnt know very well, but ive seen pics of Thanos beating his ass in H2H for like 2 or 3 pages straight.
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