And blob was just a normal human fat guy back then, now he's a mutant powerhouse.
Characters grow and change during time, jugs has immeasurable strength, and some points limitless strength.
Not to mention Cain had no idea what his power was while he was under the rubble or how to use his power, hell, he may have not known he could lift so much.
Nah, he really didn't kick his butt, he just disrupted his nervous impulse to jugs brain making him unable to move then knocked him into a building and Jug was laying there getting up, then the x-men showed up.
Jug had no sign of wear or tear, he wasn't K.O'd. That trick wouldn't have worked at all if he had had his shield up to kill the momentum of the sonic blast.
Hell, at one time he was able to shoot magical blasts and grow huge.
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this is pretty interesting. HOW would doom win? it would have to be magic because his own weaponry probably couldn't do it. but he doesn't use magic all that often. and an unprepared doom has been decimated 1on1 by namor and by tyros the terrible (terrax WITHOUT his axe) just off the top of my head. oh, and that guy from the first doom2099 series - the tiger dude. many 'round here think of doom as invincible, but i can't see him winning this without prep.
I dont keep my collection with me at college...someone has scans. Nimrod owned him the whole fight. KNocked him out of the bank with some kind of gravity blast or something. Jugs charged him and he just swatted of Jug's helmet. Then he hit him with tight wave sonics to hurt/knock him out. Then he used the neurodislocator on him and it left him limp and Nimrod was shown dragging Jug's limp body out of the ruble and the X-Men jumped in and saved him.
If this is Classic Juggernaut, Doom has nothing. He can just fly around and sputter. Stalemate, unless Juggs gets his hands on Doom. Then Doom will be an ashtray.
Classic Jugs was still taken down by Nimrod...And Doom has demonstrated he has the same capability. Not to mention Doom also has mystical attacks and frequently steals powerful being's power. Doom would work that idiot.
First, Nimrod had a protocol on how to take Jugs down plus 1000's of years advanced tech which dwarfs Doom's.
Second, it didn't knock him out, otherwise why would he have punched him into a building?
Thirdly, the shield would have made that impossible to happen. But for some reason he didn't have it up.
Jug wasn't kayoed, he was just dizzy, he got right back up. No biggy, even jugs has an equilibrium.
Seeing as how he's never been shown to ever once feel pain again and everything that happend in that issue with jugs hasn't happen since, it's likely it was PIS.
Dooms weapons are nowhere as impressive as Nimrods. Not only that, but Nimrod is a real fast-thinking computer and knows exactly what to do in any situation.
Doom isn't as powerful, as fast, as versatile and as smart as Nimrod. I just can't see how Doom would beat Juggernaut. But I can see however how Juggernaut would beat Doom (he would sit on him).
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Where has he ever suggested in a comic he had immeasurable strength?
Or are you just referring to what is said on the Uncanny Xmen site. According to that site, Count Nefaria also has immeasurable strength but he maxed out on a Mountain sized rock. Plus this isn't the only time Jugs has been in a similar situation. It took him a long time to get out of those cement foundations.
Do you not think he may have considered punching the mountain as hard as he could. If he had the strength that every one suggest he has, he would have been out in no time.
He has unlimited pushing strength, that's a 100% undeniable fact.
So, he could hang with any version of Hulk in a weight lifting contest or strength contest just by switching up his power to the way he lifts or pulls.
There hasn't been a time where Jug was unable to lift anything, ever.
'Pig, I usually respect ur comments. But it really doesnt sound like you've read the comic. Juggernaut was limp and helpless being dragged out of rubble by Nimrod...Totally paralized...And was rescued by the X-Men. Nimrod's tech is not from 1000 years in the future..where did that idea come from!?!?!. Nimrod is created in the early 21st century of an alternate reality. U have no knowledge of Doom's tech. Read FF 350 and 351. Doom's technology and knowledge of time travel are only behind people like Immortus, Nathaniel Richards, and Hyperstorm. If Doom can manipulate Watcher and Celestial technology, he can certainly handle early 21st century tech from an alternate timeline.
Nimrod's tech inst more advanced. Its apparent in their time travel techniques. Are you seriously saying the most impressive tech examples of Nimrod's are more impressive than Doom's? That is utterly ridiculous unless you dont read any FF...then u just dont know. But like I said...usually I respect ur posts cuz u back most things up. But I have to question your downplaying of Doom this time.
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