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leonidas
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i'm saying that in 40 years, it has been done less than a handful of times. it's possible, but not likely.


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Hulk has crumpled adamantium before and I believe he could beat Sym but if he was not quickly enaraged he could lose

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Originally posted by leonidas
i'm saying that in 40 years, it has been done less than a handful of times. it's possible, but not likely.


40 years of CIS and PIS don't matter here.
I agree with you that Hulk is crazy strong, and crazy resistant, but i wouldn't be surprised if S'ym won this fight. The way i see it happening (comic-wise) would be S'ym somehow surprising Hulk, knocking him around a few times, and eventually overloading him and knocking him out.
Next issue, Hulk for some reason gets uber-p1ssed off and beats the crap out of S'ym.
Or something like that...


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er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? blink

with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .

possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.


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Hulk has crumpled adamantium before and I believe he could beat Sym but if he was not quickly enaraged he could lose


That is grade B adamantium. Don't even dare compare it to grade A adamantium.

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er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? blink

with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .

possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.


I don't see it that way. I could very well bring out the wildcard, aka Wolverine. Since he appeared as a Hulk villain (of all things) his entire career as a character has been one big bungle of CIS/PIS.
By your logic, since he's consistently been represented through CIS and PIS, the only occurences of CIS and PIS were when he lost fights. (for the record, i used to think like this as well a long time ago).


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er, did you just say 40 years of stories are cis/pis? blink

with 40 years worth of stories to SUPPORT his strength, i'd say the times he was BEATEN using force were the incidents of pis/cis . . .

possible sym could get a ko -- especially if he surprised hulk. but in a straight up fist fight, i still side with hulk.

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That is grade B adamantium. Don't even dare compare it to grade A adamantium.



I don't see it that way. I could very well bring out the wildcard, aka Wolverine. Since he appeared as a Hulk villain (of all things) his entire career as a character has been one big bungle of CIS/PIS.
By your logic, since he's consistently been represented through CIS and PIS, the only occurences of CIS and PIS were when he lost fights. (for the record, i used to think like this as well a long time ago).


pis/cis are by definition examples of characters acting OUT of character -- ie -- they go against what has been clearly shown to be the normal perimeters of a character. if he has been shown to be one way for almost his whole career, that is not pis/cis. i hate wolverine, but he RARELY loses. there have been MANY moments of pis/cis in wolvie's career, but on the whole he rarely loses.

again, the bulk of evidence supports them, whether you agree with their depictions or not. sad


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Would you like me to post the one-shot = knock-out pic which is more recent by the way?


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pis/cis are by definition examples of characters acting OUT of character -- ie -- they go against what has been clearly shown to be the normal perimeters of a character. if he has been shown to be one way for almost his whole career, that is not pis/cis. i hate wolverine, but he RARELY loses. there have been MANY moments of pis/cis in wolvie's career, but on the whole he rarely loses.

again, the bulk of evidence supports them, whether you agree with their depictions or not. sad


You didn't get my point. Hulk can and HAS been knocked out. If the punch/kick/whatever is strong enough and at the beginning of the battle, it can and has happened. I called it PIS/CIS that he hasn't had it happen more often, because he's gone up against stronger/tougher characters that could've done it just as well as the ones that did knock him out did, but they DIDN'T. How can that be explained if not by CIS/PIS?

SO you agree that a short canadian with claws and a healing factor can't be knocked out by Hulk huh? ( this from his earliest appearances till today) ? What the f**k?


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Would you like me to post the one-shot = knock-out pic which is more recent by the way?
was it savage Hulk or Prof wink


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so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?blink we'll agree to disagree on this issue.

as far as wolverine:

unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. sad


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i'm saying that in 40 years, it has been done less than a handful of times. it's possible, but not likely.


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so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?blink we'll agree to disagree on this issue.

as far as wolverine:

unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. sad
Wolverine gets extra powers because he is from Canada.


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Wolverine gets extra powers because he is from Canada.
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was it savage Hulk or Prof wink


The OP didn't mention wink
And your scan is indeed quite old wink


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so you're saying characters job to a character with basically infinite strength?blink we'll agree to disagree on this issue.

as far as wolverine:

unfortunately, i have no choice BUT to agree with it. he's also fought many other hulk-level opponents in the past (wendigo, wrecker to name just a couple off the top of my head) and had success against them. what else can we conclude but that he IS able to fight these types of guys? i hate it, but the evidence FOR it is overwhelming. sad


laughing out loud again, you miss my point. The point being that it's happened, it CAN happen, characters had the potential and opportunities to make it happen again, but they didn't. That is CIS/PIS.

as for wolverine:

Compare his feats to his powers. Ask yourself if they match in any way erm


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plz don't bring namor into this


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I'm not sure...if I can...restrain myself.


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I'm not sure...if I can...restrain myself.


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