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Revan's rank as a force user.
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Number 1 4 19.05%
2-3 4 19.05%
4-5 2 9.52%
6-7 1 4.76%
8-9 3 14.29%
10-lower 7 33.33%
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Ranking Revan
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calvs
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Originally posted by D_CP
Glentract, why do you think Kyp, Ulic and DE Sidious would beat Revan? Just curious.

your joking, right?


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Pwned... I think there are many that he could beat and many that could beat him. Amongst the Sith he would rank amongst the highest, and he could very well be the best lightsaber fighter. Even better then somebody like Tulak Hord... Who was damned good from all we know.

We dont know enough to make this assumption. Kriea said that Tulak Hord was the best Swordsman to-date, which was after The events of the jedi civil war, and Revan at his peak.


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Swordsmanship and control of the Force don't necessarily go hand-in-hand...someone could be a great saber fighter yet only average or even mediocre with their control of the Force.


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I'm just saying that he wasn't a better swordsman.


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Yeah, but this thread is asking about Revan's rank as a Force user. So swordsmanship is irrelevant.


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I was just replying to Fishy's statement.


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Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Teh list o' Sith!

1- Marka friggin' Ragnos
2- Simus
3- Naga Sadow
4- Ajunta Pall/Tulak/Ludo Kressh (this is a hazy line here. Can't directly compare them)
5- Freedan Nadd
6- Teh Kun
7- Nihilus (Note that this is based on Force mastery and potential, not his uber ability)
8- Traya
9- Revan
10- Malak


Janus... Nihilus would have the same power of the Xile, now unless you want to claim that the Exile is more powerful then Kreia Revan and Malak, I would remove him from that list..


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Why Traya ahead of Revan Janus? Just curious by the way...


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Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Teh list o' Sith!

1- Marka friggin' Ragnos
2- Simus
3- Naga Sadow
4- Ajunta Pall/Tulak/Ludo Kressh (this is a hazy line here. Can't directly compare them)
5- Freedan Nadd
6- Teh Kun
7- Nihilus (Note that this is based on Force mastery and potential, not his uber ability)
8- Traya
9- Revan
10- Malak


Let me go over this again...

1- Marka Ragnos is THE Dark Lord of the Sith. He pwned Simus and kept hordes of Sith under his heel for over a century. His implied level of power is amazing.

2- Simus lorded over the Sith before Ragnos came along. Able to keep himself alive as a mere head, he was still awarded respect on the Sith council.

3- Naga Sadow had more force toys than anyone in the series, and considering he was unique in having them it wouldn't be a far stretch to think he created them. After all, he knew their upper limits. He understood what he was doing with them.

4- All of these guys are quite esteemed and powerful, but I can't fit them properly into the order with what I know, so they all tie for fourth.

5- He was notable for his force potential, and his accomplishmentsare nice. I rank him above Exar Kun in Force mastery because Nadd was a Sith (Or wannabe sith) for many years, while Kun was briefly a DLOTS.

6- Kun is uber. I don't have to really get into this one.

7- Nihilus toyed with Kreia and Sion, despite Kreia being very powerful. He also enslaved his entire crew, kept the Ravager together using his own will, etc. etc. And no, Fishy, the Exile does not equal the power of Nihilus. Nihilus' powers were refined. He was a Sith Lord and a creature created of the Force. They are not comparable, unless you want to explain to me why Nihilus is eight feet tall and the Exile six.

8- Traya. Nuff said.

9- Actually, I'd like to change this one to DE Sidious.

10- Revan.

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About Nihilus, he might be different then the Exile this is true, but the basics of Nihilus could never be more powerful then Revan, as when Nihilus was first created without anything to eat he was based on the Exile who wans't more powerful then Revan.

also all those things he did, he did by eating the force or using the power he got from eating. Nihilus without his eating ability is nothing really.


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If we count this Nihilus as the same as Exile, who is really just a mediocre Jedi General serving under Revan, he doesn't come too high, possibly at the end of this list if you were running short of ideas and ideas.

I agree with what you said about Ragnos Janus, but don't forget that the Sith Empire didn't actually expand under his rule, although this would not mattter in any given duel.

Geez, things have changed around here. Revan used to be revered as a God, now look at him!


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Eh... that doesn't make any sense and there's no support for it, Fishy. Nihilus > Revan. If Revan > Nihilus, he would have killed it himself.

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I think this can be done quite fast. Kreia, who herself might be the most notorious "Revan fangirl" there is was saying that the entirety of the Ancient Sith would make people from her time (including Revan and herself) look like children when it comes to fighting ability or force knowledge.

Therefore the following people are above Revan:
Ragnos, Simus, Sadow, Kressh, Tulak Hord

The following might be able to defeat Revan:
Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun, DE Sidious, Kreia herself, the Exile, NJO Luke, Yoda, Nihilus (drain ability).

So I'd say that Revan himself is not among the "Top 10 force users ever".


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Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Let me go over this again...

1- Marka Ragnos is THE Dark Lord of the Sith. He pwned Simus and kept hordes of Sith under his heel for over a century. His implied level of power is amazing.

2- Simus lorded over the Sith before Ragnos came along. Able to keep himself alive as a mere head, he was still awarded respect on the Sith council.

3- Naga Sadow had more force toys than anyone in the series, and considering he was unique in having them it wouldn't be a far stretch to think he created them. After all, he knew their upper limits. He understood what he was doing with them.

4- All of these guys are quite esteemed and powerful, but I can't fit them properly into the order with what I know, so they all tie for fourth.

5- He was notable for his force potential, and his accomplishmentsare nice. I rank him above Exar Kun in Force mastery because Nadd was a Sith (Or wannabe sith) for many years, while Kun was briefly a DLOTS.

6- Kun is uber. I don't have to really get into this one.

7- Nihilus toyed with Kreia and Sion, despite Kreia being very powerful. He also enslaved his entire crew, kept the Ravager together using his own will, etc. etc. And no, Fishy, the Exile does not equal the power of Nihilus. Nihilus' powers were refined. He was a Sith Lord and a creature created of the Force. They are not comparable, unless you want to explain to me why Nihilus is eight feet tall and the Exile six.

8- Traya. Nuff said.

9- Actually, I'd like to change this one to DE Sidious.

10- Revan.

WOW!


Nihilus was one of the most powerful "force users", quite possibly in a better rank on that list. Where is it said that Nihilus is created purely of the force? Isn't Yoda one of the strongest in knowledge, and use of the force?


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Nihilus is technically a wound in the Force, or a Force spectre. Hence why he dissolves at death, etc. tc.

Btw, Nai, excellent points, but you forgot Ajunta Pall.

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Nihilus is technically a wound in the Force, or a Force spectre. Hence why he dissolves at death, etc. tc.

Not trying to be an A-hole, but why would he be a force-spectre?


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Because he was created of the Exile's force essence at Malachor. He grew in strength as he ate, because his hunger is insatiable.

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Because he was created of the Exile's force essence at Malachor. He grew in strength as he ate, because his hunger is insatiable.

1.) where does this say this?
2.) Nihilus is a human right? how could he grow from his "essence" when the exile feeds on "essences" himself?


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Janus Marius
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Uh, play the game, and go fetch some of the unincluded original material.

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I played it 14 times, and i don't recall it saying "he grew from the exile's essence".
Do you have a link to this material?


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