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nefaria has the power of some villians but multipled times 100 i think so yeah he's up there he beat the avengers, but could not hurt captains shield, sentry has been said to stalemate galactus even at full power could nefaria stalemate galactus even if he was weak?

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Ill just post there powers anyway.


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Sentry. There's no point in a speedfight against him and his evil self (void) took not only the avengers but villains helping against him as well.


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Count Nefaria:
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 230
Hair: Black

Distinguishing Features: Nefaria has sometimes worn a monocle, though it may be a cosmetic affection rather than a corrective lens.

Superhuman Powers: When his body is fully charged with ionic energy, Nefaria possesses tremendous, nearly immeasurable strength and durability, high-level superhuman speed, the power of flight, and the ability to fire powerful laser beams from his eyes. In recent times, he has also proven capable of forming and manipulating crude ionic energy constructs, such as an energy strand used to lasso an oppenent. If Nefaria's bodily ionic energy reserves dwindle too low, his powers start to fade and his body begins to wither and age rapidly. Nefaria periodically replenishes his energies by draining power from outside sources of ionic energy, often draining other ionic-powered super-beings like himself. If Nefaria drains too much energy too quickly, his victim will die. Like other ionic super-beings such as Atlas and Wonder Man, Nefaria has apparently developed astounding regenerative powers, enabling him to heal himself from a seemingly deceased state or even reintegrate his bodily matter after exploding.

Paraphenalia: Thanks to his family fortune and Maggia funds, Nefaria has maintained an arsenal of specialized high-tech equipment over the years, notably assorted elaborate death traps, force field technology, teleportation devices and illusion projectors. His "nightmare machine" could project realistic images into the minds of others, even across vast distances. Since becoming superhuman, Nefaria has relied somewhat less technology in recent years.

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Sentry:
Height: 6'
Weight: 194
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Blond

Superhuman powers: Absorbing potentially limitless power from solar energy, Sentry is superhumanly strong, durable and intellegent, generates a powerful energy field and is capable of flight. His self-doubt manifests itself as the monstrous Void.

Paraphernalia: Sentry used the sentient computer CLOC, high-tech Watchtower headquarters, and Watchwagon transportation.


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Wow, what a short bio for sentry compared to Nefaria's.


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Wow, what a short bio for sentry compared to Nefaria's.


I got that from my brand new Marvel Encyclopedia word for word.

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A good slugfest is what I would like to see with these 2...


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Well that's a bad description right there. here's a more accurate powerset from wiki.

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The Sentry's powers are derived from a serum that causes his molecules to step an instant ahead of the current timeline. Though most of his powers and their limits are still unknown, he has displayed several abilities similarly to those of DC's Superman, including super-strength, super-speed, invulnerability, and flight. The Sentry can also project energy fields, control light, and apparently has vast psychic and mental powers used primarily for holding his physical form together. It is currently unclear whether the Sentry can use his psychic and mental powers the way Professor X and other psychics use theirs, but his erasure of the world's memories shows he is vastly powerful. The only consciously controlled psychic abilities he has displayed so far is implanting his memories inside Paul Jenkins' mind and calming the fury of the Hulk (though given the way he quickly becomes the nation's most beloved hero, he may have some emotion-manipulating abilities as well.) Given his abilities to project energy fields and control light, it may be possible that the Sentry also has the ability to produce hard-light constructs similar to those of Songbird.

He has very similar powers to Gladiator and Hyperion, as they too were based on Superman.


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The Sentry

mpowered by the enigmatic Professor's secret formula, high school student Robert Reynolds became a superhuman. After trouncing the school bully who had tormented him, Reynolds sewed together a costume and made his debut as the heroic Sentry. One of very few super heroes active during the years just prior to the Fantastic Four's emergence, Sentry gained new importance when the new wave of heroes rose to prominence. Almost instantly deducing Spider-Man's secret identity, Sentry became a role model for the young hero, as well as an ally to the X-Men, an equal to Reed Richards and a friend to the outcast Hulk. The Sentry even battled Dr. Doom alongside the Fantastic Four and defeated his greatest enemy, the General, with the X-Men's aid.


During this period, the Sentry married the love of his life, Lindy, and took the young Scout as his sidekick; but the arrival of the Void, a shadowy monster that exploited its enemy's greatest fears, ended the Sentry's charmed life. The Void nearly killed Scout, drove Hulk into a rampage, and murdered over one million people in Manhattan. Discovering that the Void had been the dark aspect of his own powers, the Sentry teamed with Reed Richards and Dr. Strange to create a system which made Earth's entire population, themselves included, forget all about the Sentry. With the Sentry inactive and forgotten, the Void vanished.


Years later, Robert's memories slowly returned along with the Void, who rampaged across Europe, murdering many members of the Super-Heroes of Europe (SHE). The Sentry contacted his former colleagues, but the only one who recalled their shared history was the Hulk. As the Void returned to Manhattan, the pieces began to fall in place and the Sentry's former friends assembled to defend him and the city. Remembering the dual nature of Robert's powers, Sentry and Reed Richards reactivated the Watchtower, dispelling the Void and making the world forget the Sentry once again; however, Robert's memories of the Sentry soon returned, and he demanded to be placed on the Raft, S.H.I.E.L.D.' high-security prison for super-villains, claiming that he had killed his wife. During a mass breakout at the Raft, Sentry helped several other heroes subdue many of the escaping villains - notably Carnage, whom Sentry ripped in half. Inspired by this adventure, the other heroes soon formed the new Avengers, but Sentry vanished before they could invite him to join them. The Sentry has stayed in hiding since then, but remains a person of great interest to S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Avengers, who are both fascinated by his powers and worried that they may lead to another Scarlet Witch situation.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/The_Sentry

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The Sentry


Real name: Robert Reynolds
Occupation: Hero
Identity: Secret
Legal status: Citizen of the United States with no criminal record
Place of birth: Unknown
Group affiliation: None
Base of operations: Watchtower
First appearance: SENTRY #1, rumored to be STARTLING STORIES #17

History: Robert Reynolds was startled from sleep in the middle of a lightening storm. Driven by fractured recollections of an unfamiliar past, he rescued a hidden bottle from his library. Teetering just beyond his confused grasp, visions of a mysterious mortal enemy had begun to chip away at the barriers to his forgotten former life. As Reynolds drank from the bottle, he felt an energy course through him like that of a million exploding suns. The splintered images of his prior existence began to coalesce. He remembered himself as a hero -- the Sentry, Golden Guardian of Good -- fighting alongside the Avengers, Spider-Man, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. Before his fall from grace, Reynolds had conquered time and space itself. He was omnipotent; he was immortal. He was the Sentry.

Reynolds understood the danger inherent in the Void's return -- and knew he was humanity's last, best hope. He donned his gold-and-blue Sentry costume once more and set out to prepare the world's heroes to battle an evil so great as to threaten the entire universe -- only to discover the world he'd set out to defend had forgotten him. Even Reed Richards, once his best friend, had no recollection of Robert Reynolds or the Sentry. As he approached each of them, the memories slowly began to creep back into their minds. With saddened hearts and fragmented recollections, the heroes joined their champion to defend the world against the coming of the Void.

Height: 6 ft. 2 in.
Weight: 200 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Blond

Known superhuman powers: While the full extent of the Sentry's solar-based abilities is unknown, he has demonstrated super-strength, invulnerability, super-speed, the power of flight and the capacity to control light. The Sentry's abilities derive from an experimental serum that creates a phase-shift in his molecules, causing each atom to step an instant ahead of the current timeline. The serum induces a photosynthetic reaction, resulting in a hyperstate of consciousness. In effect, the Sentry's powers are limitless.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/sentry.htm

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The Sentry (#2 of 8 part mini series involving the Sentry and other characters)

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Based on all of the information give, I say Count Nefaria.


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Other known feats of sentry that I know

-Defeated Terrax, easily.
-Stalemated Galactus
-Is said to be 1 second ahead of time
-Has the power of a million/billion/trillion? exploding suns
-Is called the most powerful being in the marvel universe
-Is a silverage Stan Lee Creation
-The void was once in him, I think he expelled it from him now.
-He is said to be the only one who can defeat the void


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Originally posted by Jesse7
Other known feats of sentry that I know

-Defeated Terrax, easily.
-Stalemated Galactus
-Is said to 1 second ahead of time
-Has the power of a million/billion/trillion? exploding suns
-Is called the most powerful being in the marvel universe
-Is a silverage Stan Lee Creation
-The was once in him, I think he expelled it from him now.


Sentry is definitely not the most powerful being in Marvel.

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It is what some of the comic descriptions called him, I am not arguing for Sentry or against Sentry, just providing some of what I know.


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Originally posted by Jesse7
Other known feats of sentry that I know

-Defeated Terrax, easily.
-Stalemated Galactus
-Is said to be 1 second ahead of time
-Has the power of a million/billion/trillion? exploding suns
-Is called the most powerful being in the marvel universe
-Is a silverage Stan Lee Creation
-The void was once in him, I think he expelled it from him now.
-He is said to be the only one who can defeat the void


He's not actually a Silver Age creation though big grin it's actually quite a hoax Jenkins and Lee along with Wizard's help pulled.


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Still to early to use Sentry in battles IMO. Even so, Sentry would win.


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Originally posted by batdude123
Sentry is definitely not the most powerful being in Marvel.


He is not the most powerful, but is definitely pretty high up in terms of powers and capability (and once you look at his feats, including the whole void thing, Sentry is capable of some pretty much astounding feats).


Anyways, Count Nefaria is a very potent individual (and the whole stopping Thor's hammer thing is quite interesting), but he is no Sentry.

Sentry wins this.


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He is not the most powerful, but is definitely pretty high up in terms of powers and capability (and once you look at his feats, including the whole void thing, Sentry is capable of some pretty much astounding feats).


Anyways, Count Nefaria is a very potent individual (and the whole stopping Thor's hammer thing is quite interesting), but he is no Sentry.

Sentry wins this.


Talk is cheap, explain how.

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Originally posted by batdude123
Talk is cheap, explain how.


100% true.
Talk is cheap (in fact if you used to be here a few months past you would have met some members who made some of the most extravagant claims ....for example one called Wolverine8888 who used to say nonsense like Wolverine being able to beat Superman, Wolverine being able to beat WonderWoman, Wolverine being able to beat ......well, you get the idea. And due to his spelling deficiencies he would call Wolverine 'Wolbereen').

Anyways, I digress.

To explain how Sentry can beat Nefaria, all I have to do is simply repeat SOME of the things Jesse7 wrote:
Actually just two of them:

-Defeated Terrax, easily.
-Stalemated Galactus.

Then there are others like the whole void thing I mentioned.


Alright then, now I throw the gauntlet to you ...Mr 'Talk is Cheap.' Give me one example of Count Nefaria doing anything that approaches Sentry stalemating Galactus.
One example of that level of feat.

If you give me one feat of Nefaria doing something that approaches stalemating Galactus, then I will concur that Nefaria can infact be a threat to Sentry.
If you cannot then I guess that will be sufficient answer to the contrary.

As you said, talk is cheap.

Have a good evening.

I'm willing to wait (and I'm pretty certain that there will infact be waiting).


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Does anyone have a scan of Sentry supposedly stalemating Big G?..From what I have read Nefaria slapped around both Avengers and Thunderbolts like nothing(although they may not have had all the team memebers)


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Originally posted by spetznaz
100% true.
Talk is cheap (in fact if you used to be here a few months past you would have met some members who made some of the most extravagant claims ....for example one called Wolverine8888 who used to say nonsense like Wolverine being able to beat Superman, Wolverine being able to beat WonderWoman, Wolverine being able to beat ......well, you get the idea. And due to his spelling deficiencies he would call Wolverine 'Wolbereen').

Anyways, I digress.

To explain how Sentry can beat Nefaria, all I have to do is simply repeat SOME of the things Jesse7 wrote:
Actually just two of them:

-Defeated Terrax, easily.
-Stalemated Galactus.

Then there are others like the whole void thing I mentioned.


Alright then, now I throw the gauntlet to you ...Mr 'Talk is Cheap.' Give me one example of Count Nefaria doing anything that approaches Sentry stalemating Galactus.
One example of that level of feat.

If you give me one feat of Nefaria doing something that approaches stalemating Galactus, then I will concur that Nefaria can infact be a threat to Sentry.
If you cannot then I guess that will be sufficient answer to the contrary.

As you said, talk is cheap.

Have a good evening.

I'm willing to wait (and I'm pretty certain that there will infact be waiting).


Count Nefaria has defeated Atlas and Wonder Man at the same time. He also defeated the Avengers and the Thunderbolts at the same time as well.

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