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Midnighter vs Wolverine
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Dum Dum Dugan
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Your analogy is a bit false. Yours with Wolverine is someone narrating his actions. Whereas MN'er can actually process thousands of strategies (i.e. many thousands of individual moves) in the opening seconds of a fight. Thus, he knows the best way to beat you in about a second, as well as everything you can do ability-wise. And computer-analogies aside, I don't think Wolverine can say anything near that.

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I just realize I got sucked into a debate with capt about wolverine. This isn't going to end until I just leave, is it? Alright, how bout this. I'll go so far as to say 5/10 for both. But keep in mind, I don't hate Wolverine, and I'm willing to bet I've read more X-men/Wolverine stuff than you've read of the Authority....so my 7/10 for MN'er was trying to be fair. It wasn't hating on Logan.

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-digimark out-

lol actauly I was just about to say that u could be totaly right in saying MN wins sicne I have not read enough on MN to fully under stand the characters abilties. also if proven wrong I admitt it I do not stay in matches when i clearly am beat.
also i could say the same about u when u debate about spiderman as u said about me debating about wolverine

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
I just realize I got sucked into a debate with capt about wolverine. This isn't going to end until I just leave, is it?


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midnighter sees this battle happening a thousand times in his head just looking at logan and then proceeds to book ass cause he's gonna be losing in every one of them. big grin


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Didn't seem to help him much when Regis pawned his ass...


Haha...yeah, the one time MN'er jobbed horribly. Can't really think of another time though, so it's kinda unfair to use that one example against him. Wolverine's had his share of both good and bad showings too.

I'd like to think the Regis thing was mild PIS so Jack could take him out (destroying the cities and people and whatnot gave him more cause). But you can use that against MN'er if you like...there's really not an explanation for it.

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also i could say the same about u when u debate about spiderman as u said about me debating about wolverine


See, the difference is, I try to stay away from Spidey debates. I like to make my rep elsewhere so I'm not seen as a psycho Spidey-fanboy (which I'm sure I would be if I debated in enough threads...lol). The recent duel with jin was the only exception I can think of in a long while.


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also seeing a battle in ur head does not mean u can carry it out. since MN knowledge on wolverine personality is non exsisting. he would not know how wolverine would react he just knows diffrerent senerios. knowing different scenerios does not make u win a battle, it will how ever tell u ur going to lose though lol.

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wolverine would have to be written in the upper 10% of his potential to beat a jobbing midnighter. namor would not beat apollo. if you think that deathstroke would beat wolverine, midnighter would too.

midnighter 8/10


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). The recent duel with jin was the only exception I can think of in a long while.


and a magnificant duel it was.


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wolverine would have to be written in the upper 10% of his potential to beat a jobbing midnighter. namor would not beat apollo. if you think that deathstroke would beat wolverine, midnighter would too.

midnighter 8/10


capt doesn't think that deathstroke would beat wolverine though.. hell he proved that that he wouldn't already...


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wolverine would have to be written in the upper 10% of his potential to beat a jobbing midnighter. namor would not beat apollo. if you think that deathstroke would beat wolverine, midnighter would too.

midnighter 8/10

actauly absed on feats namor would beat apollo.

I don't think deathstroke would take logan.
so i don't see how u thinking deathstroke beats wolverine equals MN beating wwolverine since wolverine would more then liklybeat deathstroke.

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why, why, oh why would wolverine beat deathstroke? what advantage does he have besides his claws, which deathstroke is plenty fast enough to deflect?


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capt doesn't think that deathstroke would beat wolverine though.. hell he proved that that he wouldn't already...

yes

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why, why, oh why would wolverine beat deathstroke? what advantage does he have besides his claws, which deathstroke is plenty fast enough to deflect?

this is not the thread for this PM me if u wanna know the reasons



also u just proved ur lack of knowledge in wolverines abilites

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why, why, oh why would wolverine beat deathstroke? what advantage does he have besides his claws, which deathstroke is plenty fast enough to deflect?


He heals 1000 times faster, is just as fast, almost as strong, exponentially more skilled and with out prep DS has zero means to take down Wolverine

... I'm sure there are more reasons but those are good enough.


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Bad example. MN'er is like DS 2.0....right idea, but Slade's still a notch below MN;er.


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Bad example. MN'er is like DS 2.0....right idea, but Slade's still a notch below MN;er.

when has MN ever shown slade reflexes or agility?

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and a magnificant duel it was.


Indeed. Hopefully we both brought the other a touch closer to seeing the opposing viewpoint (I still stand by my claim(s), but you certainly made me believe it would be much closer than I once thought).

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when has MN ever shown slade reflexes or agility?


The question is, when hasn't he? It's hard to quantify speed, but I've seen MN'er drawn multiple times on a single panel while punking superhumans...the kind of speed drawing they normally reserve for the likes of Spider-Man or Quicksilver. That, and the ability to not get hit by Apollo with punches or heat-vision is enough of a speed feat for me. Apollo would be a good match for Namor by the way, and I'd give Apollo the win more often than not due to energy projection, since their speed/strength is probably similar, but I'd still give Apollo the edge in those. He's definitely a bit closer to herald than the water-dweller.


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He caught an arrow once and he beat down a soldier who supposedly had super speed... othen that nada


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Didn't Ord put Logan down for a good while with a gut slash?


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yes he did. and did you just say that wolverine healed one thousand times faster? and that he is just as fast as deathstroke, mister superhuman thought process with reflexes as fast as he can think? stronger? exponentially more skilled?

i have an idea:

deathstroke heals 1000 times faster, is just as fast, almost as strong, exponentially more skilled and with out prep wolverine has zero means to take down deathstroke.


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yes he did. and did you just say that wolverine healed one thousand times faster? and that he is just as fast as deathstroke, mister superhuman thought process with reflexes as fast as he can think? stronger? exponentially more skilled?

i have an idea:

deathstroke heals 1000 times faster, is just as fast, almost as strong, exponentially more skilled and with out prep wolverine has zero means to take down deathstroke.


The day DS regrows a new heart in three panels give me call.


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yes he did. and did you just say that wolverine healed one thousand times faster? and that he is just as fast as deathstroke, mister superhuman thought process with reflexes as fast as he can think? stronger? exponentially more skilled?

i have an idea:

deathstroke heals 1000 times faster, is just as fast, almost as strong, exponentially more skilled and with out prep wolverine has zero means to take down deathstroke.



did u just say deathstroke heals 1000's times faster then wolverine? a guy who grow a new heart in 5 pannels?
wolverines healing factor is many tiems that of slade.


why would wolverine need prep to take slade?

also wolverine has superhuman reflexes and senses which can prodicted atatcks before they happen. so yes wolverine just as fast as slade. also wolverien deos not need to think to fight so that would put him faster then slade.

slade may be stornger then wolverine it hard to say.


wolverine is the more skileld fighter deffently. wolverine also has far more experience fighting as well.

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