Thor's got superspeed, but hulk ain't that slow either. Current Juggs doesn't hold a candle to either Bizzaro OR Black Adam. But lets say somehow he wins. He still has the other one to contest against, and that ain't happening. And mystique turning into the hulk... When has she ever done anything even close to that, and attained that kind of strength. I think you're thinking of copycat, who has the ability to attain the looks and superhuman powers of anyone she copies. Pyro is very powerful, if portrayed right, But a quick breath from either BA or Bizzaro and he's out like a light. game over. Zoom could run by and create a vortex fast enough to turn off the heat for Pyro. Unless Pyro's been changed since I last read him, Pyro plays with fire, he doesn't create it.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Also sure Lex in his suit is gonna get owned by mags. But Magneto mind is gonna try and flex against BA's muscles? are you kidding me? Magneto's most recent showings before he straight out lost his powers due to the Scarlet Witch, show Magneto's powers as waning. Going downhill. Now Magneto at his peak. He might have had a good showing against BA. But the most recent Magneto won't have the willpower to hold back against a guy in the 100+++ ton range. Toad could definitely deal with Joker. And he'd definitely win. but then he'd be outclassed by the guys that are left.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Quicksilver has absolutely nothing on Zoom. Hell, the Flashes barely have anything on Zoom. And Cheetah's still a hell of a lot faster than Sabertooth, and can still do far more damage (even if he does keep healing from it). Black Adam and Bizarro are far too versatile for Juggernaut, and with no PIS here, Juggernaut would never get a good shot at them. And I know how powerful Pyro can be, but he's still not doing a thing to the individuals I mentioned. And yeah, Magneto can kill Lex, but he still has a group of extremely powerful beings that can take him out, Sinestro and Zoom especially. You're right about Toad and Joker though, but I have to ask why Joker's here, he's cunning, but a serious weak link. And as for Mystique, she could look like Hulk, but that's it. She doesn't gain his power, just his likeness.
I think you mean WITH the power of the gem, since there isn't (or ever was) a gem within him. And yeah, he's strong enough, but he's no where near fast enough to lay a hand on either of them. Black Adam nonchalantly dodges him while telling him he's nothing, then quickly digs a hole under him before he knows what the hell is going on.
Zoom would have dropped him long before the thought of taking out anyone came to mind. Can you say infinite mass punch?
Like Zoom, Pyro would not touch Cheetah, not before she ripped out his throat, first.
I repeat, Mystique could change to a Hulk sized brute if she wanted, she would NOT have the strength to fight any of these mountain-toppling characters. Her powers don't work that that. She copies the look, not the powers.
And that's not even mentioning the former top Green Lantern Sinestro, who could stomp this team on his own.
Lets try to keep it somewhat friendly now. But, if you don't mind, care to explain it in your own words, or has it already been made pretty clear?
Magento could just rip the iron out of luthor, joker, cheetah, Black Adam. I dont know if bizzaro has iron in his blood since we dont know anything about kryptonian blood. In one x-men issue he held them all in place just by using the iron in their blood.
Exodus could just tk most of their heads right off their bodies, I dont think you know how powerfull he is. He can almost go toe to toe with the phoenix.
Im looking at cheetah in the comics right now, and if Wonder Woman can catch her with a lasso, then pyro can catch her with fire.
and I said she wouldnt be as strong as hulk be yes she would be very strong. She once turned into a copy of sabertooth and she was able to slash people, she doesnt take on powers but she does take on physical characteristics.
Cheetah can move, think and react at lightspeed. She is as strong and durable as Wonder Woman. Fire does dipshit to her. She's taken blasts from Superman's heat vision....
Magneto would be blitzed before he can think. So would Exodus.
Juggernaut gets thrown into the Sun.
Magneto gets dogpiled.
So does Exodus.
Pyro gets broken in half.
The rest are inconsequential.
The Society has too much speed and too much power. Zoom in full bloodlust would take the entire team himself.
Why? Imagine that time is frozen. Magneto is frozen in time and so is his Brotherhood. EVERYTHING is frozen. Zoom exists in a different reality of time-reference. He can move at greater than lightspeeds in the world in a world that is frozen in time.
The Brotherhood would never get a chance to react. You CAN'T react to a man who move at lightspeed when time is frozen....
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