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rotiart
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Spiderman's not an amateur. In the scans he says that cap has studied spiderman's style and cap knows to keep it close, thats why spidey tried to get a distance... between him and cap, but cap kept it close.

cap vs. spiderman, based on those showings, cap 10/10
cap vs. iron spidey, iron spidey 5/10.


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Originally posted by Arahan
What i dont get is that Spiderman is very fast much faster than a human can ever get, and after The Other Story his speed was upgraded.

So why in hell can Cap hit Spidey, and why doesnt he just dodge his attacks.

Cap has superior H2H skills but Spidey has superior speed, strength reaction that must count for something. Unfortunately Spidey is often used as a punching bag to make things more interesting.


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Originally posted by Soljer
I understand that many many people job to Captain America. But I think that SO many people Job to Captain America, that he is under rated at times.

Come now, Batdude, you know I am reasonable. I'm not ABOUT to give Cap the majority. But can he edge out a few wins? I'd say so.


One win is reasonable.


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Come on guys someone must know which issue this is.


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Originally posted by H. S. 6
I'm not so sure about that. With them both at full potential, no PIS, CIS, or jobbing, Cap shouldn't even be able to touch Spidey, let alone pull off a win.


I agree !


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I don't. Parker's a pansy for taking off his mask. Cap keeps his on and kills him.


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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Originally posted by rotiart
I don't. Parker's a pansy for taking off his mask. Cap keeps his on and kills him.


You just lost about all credibility you had on this forum.


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Originally posted by H. S. 6
You just lost about all credibility you had on this forum.


I definitely can agree with you on this note.

Brining stuff like that into debates makes you sound like an idiot.

You might as well say "Cap wins cause he is cooler!"


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You honestly think that Spider-man would be depicted beating the shit outta Captain America in a comic book? laughing Hardly anybody can overcome his jobber aura. ninja Hell, even Namor is given a hard time. However, that kind of stuff is thrown out the window here. Spider-man 9/10.


What he said.


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Okay.

Cap wins cause he's cooler.

yawn.


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"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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So you're saying all the wins. All the fights. Even the recent ones. Nothing ever showing EVER a retcon of the base character, he's now someone with no skill. And that EVERYONE jobs to him. Right.

Even on panel spiderman is stating that he couldn't win hand to hand against cap. The only advantage he had is that cap didn't know what that new suit of his could do, and if it wasn't for that, spiderman would have lost.

Cap's just a man. Yet he's fought the whole wrecking crew. hulk. namor. terrax. defeated at least 10 shield against at pointblank range. tossed his shield into an aircraft from hundreds of feet away.

eh. and parker annoys me. when tony told parker what he was going to do, peter was up at odds with himself. But tony pushed him, and peter folded. You can tell peter was one of those kinds of characters that was going to go either way. but tony pushed him his way.

Btw watching everyone just say spidey spidey spidey starts to get annoying. iron spidey wins, parker would have lost without the suit, and admitted it on panel. and comparing their track records of villains, you have to admit that its too similar to say that captain america is NOT on spiderman's level as an opponent.


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Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Originally posted by rotiart
So you're saying all the wins. All the fights. Even the recent ones. Nothing ever showing EVER a retcon of the base character, he's now someone with no skill. And that EVERYONE jobs to him. Right.

Even on panel spiderman is stating that he couldn't win hand to hand against cap. The only advantage he had is that cap didn't know what that new suit of his could do, and if it wasn't for that, spiderman would have lost.

Cap's just a man. Yet he's fought the whole wrecking crew. hulk. namor. terrax. defeated at least 10 shield against at pointblank range. tossed his shield into an aircraft from hundreds of feet away.

eh. and parker annoys me. when tony told parker what he was going to do, peter was up at odds with himself. But tony pushed him, and peter folded. You can tell peter was one of those kinds of characters that was going to go either way. but tony pushed him his way.

Btw watching everyone just say spidey spidey spidey starts to get annoying. iron spidey wins, parker would have lost without the suit, and admitted it on panel. and comparing their track records of villains, you have to admit that its too similar to say that captain america is NOT on spiderman's level as an opponent.


There. Now you make a few good points. It is a LOT better than "Cap wins cause Pete's nothing but a puss."

Also, this isn't the first time Captain America has been able to keep up with Peter.


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sorry but i'm at work whenver i'm here. and when I type a lot. it means i have almost no work. when i type little comments like that (after reading all those other no debate comments) i have lots of work.


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"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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have LOTS of work this week. sigh.


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Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Understandable. Good luck, and try not to smother yourself 'neath all that work.


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What issue are those scans from?


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The scans should be from Amazing spider-man #534


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Originally posted by Dinalfos
Spiderman wins, ofcourse. No PIS, no CIS, no jobbing......10/10.


10/10?!?! What the f**k?

You underestimate Cap


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Spider-Man 9.99/10. There's probably a 1/1000 chance that Spider-Man has a spontaneous seizure.


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