Okay. Let me reiterate as I am the original Threadmaker. I've decided to change the thread a little to make it more understandable. Each side, SBP and the JLA are confined to planet earth, however this earth is identical to Our earth circa 2006. This battle is meant to be SBP at his best vs. a normalized version of JLA.
Both SBP and JLA are teleported to a duplicate of earth. SBP as he was seen before being dropped in the Speedforce... is placed within a chamber where he will be dosed with yellow sunlight for for the equivalent of a 1 week sundip.
The teammembers are all the members of Pre-IC JLA. Superman, WW, Batman, Hal Jordan, Arthur Curry (with the waterhand), MM, Flash (Wally West).
To explain the Earth Restriction condition:
The JLA watchtower cannot be accessed as the team is restricted to earth... neither can the they ask for help from the New Gods, or anyone else obviously outside of this planet. As this planet is devoid of life, anything needed to be built will be built by the 7 members. No interdimensional hopping, phantom zoning, or speed force entering/dumping, as the fight is restrained to the planet.
Obviously there is plenty of tech already considering the batcave and fortress of solitude.. atlantis... etc.
As 1 final thing. No motherbox.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
True as in several of the more recent green lantern comics... its shown that 50-60 (can't remember exactly how many) GL's have what is considered Prime duty, where they watch over SBP. And SBP is inside a GL prison construct, which is sealed inside a junior red sun eater or some such. I think it was IC #6 when the 3 supers flew through a red sun and landed on the planet where all 3 were depowered...
So yah SBP's weakness is red sunlight.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Well maybe Earth primes red sun is different from Earth 2's red sun ... :X i can't explain it,
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
It was a major "wtf" moment for me when I read IC. That's saying a lot considering some of the insanity that went on in that series.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Well to me theres been a lot of continuity errors since 1990s
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Have you seen what 10 minute sun dip did for Superman when fighting Braniac?
Now you dip SBP for 1 week? SBP who isnt weak to Red sun light radiation except for that one PIS time. (Avalon provided the scan showing he isn't weak to red sunlight radiation prior to that one pis time in ic)
and you put him against the JLA?
SBP 9/10
By the way, the more emotional he is the more deadly he is, as he can warp reality depending on his emotions.
the thread starter didn't mention superboy prime being sundipped for a week...a week of sundippin is outrageous.
anyways the during the week of prep they could have superman man sundippin for a week ..while batman devisies plan with ManHunter, exploting his weakness. And yes superboy Prime is weakened by red sun radiation.. the example that Avalon is really a weak example.. In the end Superboy Prime was defeated with the help of redSun radiation..
also not too sure about this, but isn't he held captive by a chamber that is comprised of red sun radiation? if so yes red sun radiation weakens him.
Secondly, with all PIS aside, SBP isn't weak to red sunlight radiation, and no he isn't held captive in a cell made of red sunlight, hes being held capitive in a cell formed by 50 green lanterns.
By the way, it isn't red sunlight that weakens him, it is lack of yellow sunlight for 5 years (time flowed differently in the speed force) that likely put him in his weakened state, thus why he needed to create the armor to feed him yellow sunlight.
I don't think it was the red sunlight that weakened SBP when he flew through the red sun, but rather the lack of yellow sunlight from his suite, his cells weren't charged from being absent from yellow sunlight for so many years.
superman sundipped for a week can hold off superboy... while all that is happening, batman sucks the yellow sun radiation out of his body, at the same time Martain man Hunter is messing with his mind. Diana can lasso him also just for restraint purposes.
before the fight occurs flash shares the speed force with everybody in the JLA, including a sundipped Superman.
JLA 10/10
Rotiart said SBP is sundipped not superman, and secondly I don't think anyone is going to be able to drain SBP, seeing as how draining methods don't work very well on normal supes, now you take SBP whos durability and "bio-field" is on pre crisis level, SBP normally charged (pre lack of yellow sunlight for 5 years was it? in the speed force) was able to keep up with multiple flashes and counter blitz them, as well as punch out of the phantom zone, as well as breaking out of the speed force, and speed blitzing through the entire GL corps and breaking through their combined constructs.
On top of that he warped and retconned DC with his punches, on a omniversal level; he did this without the magic wall too.
SBP takes out JLA before they can react...
Now take SBP sun dipped for a week straight....SBP blitzes and retcons DC 10/10
P.S. SBP was retconning reality with his punches, he wasn't able to control it yet though, but the more emotional he was the more he warped reality.
Last edited by Board Walker on Sep 26th, 2006 at 04:42 AM
u dident get thr point, the JLA can use the week of prep and do anything they want to do... If they want superman can chill in the sun for a week..
Flash can give an sundipped superman and the rest of the jla a extra boost of speed.. and batman for all hells worth can use the motherbox if he pleases...diana, with a a few minutes of prep can summon a god wave..
too many options for the JLA. they win 10/10
Rotiart said no motherbox, and secondly SBP sundipped>Supes sun dipped+JLA, SBP normally speed blitzed multiple flashes simulataniously, the entire JLA can be moving at flash's speed it isnt going to save them from SBP sun dipped for a weak.
SBP is going to straight out fight them and kill them faster then Diana would be able to even begin praying for the godwave.
SBP with that much sun dipping would be warping reality on such a scale it is possible to say none of them would exist after one punch, SBP normally was warping and retconning all of DC with his punches (such as causing superman blue, causing parallax, causing the destruction of ocean city, etc.)
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Sep 25th, 2006 11:52 PM
..while batman devisies plan with ManHunter, exploting his weakness. And yes superboy Prime is weakened by red sun radiation.. the example that Avalon is really a weak example.. In the end Superboy Prime was defeated with the help of redSun radiation.. 
sigh ..u obviopilsy underestimating the JLA, esspecially with ONE WEEK OF PREP....
