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Pre WWH, regular HULK fighting at true potential doesn't mean that he's fully enraged balancing Billions on his shoulders HULK #1. Regular HULK starts out below CL100. Per KMC rules it always means that it's the current version of each character if not specified that it's another version, that being said current HULK is WWH. And Ben and Warpath cannot beat him. Even though it's been confirmed on page and is the consensus from posters on Ben's respect thread that he is indeed CL100 himself, WWH IMO starts off well into CL100 and and becomes almost unmeasurable relatively fast. Warpath is gnat here.
FTR Ben has fought pre WWH HULKs for hours upon hours dozens of times and has even beaten him 3-4 times.
WWH 10/10
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Jan 25th, 2008 01:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kutulu
This thread is a joke. Obviously Hulk would stomp out both these guys in seconds, not minutes. Thing lasted a whole ten seconds or so against Hulk during WWH when he took on the Fantastic Four, and Warpath ain't doing jack except getting Hulk pissed off.
As far as base strength, to give you an idea of how much Hulk's base strength has grown, during Planet Hulk in a weakened state he lifted a 10,000 ton+ space ship out of the ground with a single arm and a smile on his face, not angry in the slightest. He also jumped from Sakaar's moon to the planet itself, through outer space, survived freefall and re-entry, landed and caused a huge crater, got up and dusted himself off grinning from ear to ear.
To give you an idea, Superman One Million did a similar feat, jumped from the moon to the Earth's surface (all while in a weakened state, similar to Hulk during Planet Hulk) and it was worthy of making his respect thread.
Hulk grew much stronger since then.
Anybody who thinks that Thing + Warpath would even stand a 1/10 chance against Hulk is out of their mind.
Amen brother.
I also believe savage hulk would pwn these two.
Jan 25th, 2008 01:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by severance
Amen brother.
I also believe savage hulk would pwn these two.
Nope... Savage gets downed.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Pre WWH, regular HULK fighting at true potential doesn't mean that he's fully enraged balancing Billions on his shoulders HULK #1. Regular HULK starts out below CL100. Per KMC rules it always means that it's the current version of each character if not specified that it's another version, that being said current HULK is WWH. And Ben and Warpath cannot beat him. Even though it's been confirmed on page and is the consensus from posters on Ben's respect thread that he is indeed CL100 himself, WWH IMO starts off well into CL100 and and becomes almost unmeasurable relatively fast. Warpath is gnat here.
FTR Ben has fought pre WWH HULKs for hours upon hours dozens of times and has even beaten him 3-4 times.
WWH 10/10
Hulk is no longer sub class 100 to start. Like I said on Planet Hulk he listed a spacecraft bigger than the Shield Hellicarrier with one arm and a smile on his face, completely non-angry. That's base level from Planet Hulk before he got upgraded to WWH levels.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...lkstrength1.jpg
This scan proves he was weakened during Planet Hulk, so he was in a weakened non-angry state when lifting up the spaceship in the scan above:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...aarstrength.jpg
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by severance
If you want to go by slightly outmoded handbook stats then:
Grey Hulk 70 Thing 85 Savage Hulk 90 Professor 100 Maestro 200 and WWH who knows how high. Hulk has had bad showings where people like Samson have kept him occupied for hours and good showings where he has beaten Hercules to a pulp (albeit mortal Herc) Thing would fare less well than Herc as I would argue Herc is more agile and a better fighter.
So if character fight to their potential Thing will behospitalised.
Warpath despite all the speed and daggers and sh!t will fare even less well hes a class 70 at best. At hulks full potential he could arguably be hundreds of times more powerful than these two
grey hulk starts out at 75 , savage at 90 whereas ben is 85
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Jan 25th, 2008 01:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kutulu
Hulk is no longer sub class 100 to start. Like I said on Planet Hulk he listed a spacecraft bigger than the Shield Hellicarrier with one arm and a smile on his face, completely non-angry. That's base level from Planet Hulk before he got upgraded to WWH levels.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...lkstrength1.jpg
This scan proves he was weakened during Planet Hulk, so he was in a weakened non-angry state when lifting up the spaceship in the scan above:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...aarstrength.jpg
Thats what "I" said. (Pre WWH Regular HULK started out under CL100). (Where as WWH starts off well into CL100). But FTR WWH was only lifting up a small part of the ship up looking at the angle of the ship and I'll have to pull out the book but, I don't think that it was bigger than a hellicarrier if my memory is correct.
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Jan 25th, 2008 02:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ankur29
grey hulk starts out at 75 , savage at 90 whereas ben is 85
Ummm... Ben is CL100 FTR.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Thats what "I" said. (Pre WWH Regular HULK started out under CL100). (Where as WWH starts off well into CL100). But FTR WWH was only lifting up a small part of the ship up looking at the angle of the ship and I'll have to pull out the book but, I don't think that it was bigger than a hellicarrier if my memory is correct.
The ship was pretty dang big, and he lifted the whole thing out of the ground, not just a part, the scan just shows the bottom portion of the ship (those skyscrapers are in front of the ship, so it's easily big enough to dwarf skyscrapers in New York City).
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Jan 25th, 2008 02:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ummm... Ben is CL100 FTR.
If Ben is class 100 (how and when did he get the upgrade?) Thats great because I used to get fed up with him being a punching back to show how strong other guys are.
However he can surely only be a low cl100 like colossus.So I do believe savage hulk can own this. he very quickly becomes very high cl100. He can become hundreds of times more powerful than Ben
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ummm... Ben is CL100 FTR.
Cool scan. Is that from Exiles?
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Jan 25th, 2008 05:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kutulu
Cool scan. Is that from Exiles?
Nope... Avengers Initiative #3
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ummm... Ben is CL100 FTR.
what i meant was ben is class 85 according to handbooks , but if that is accepted instead of handbooks hulk is greater than class 100 while in normal therefore hulk would own
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Jan 25th, 2008 06:53 PM
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Hulk 10/10 unless he is in Grey Hulk form. If it was Grey Hulk the other 2 could overpower him b4 he got strong enough to beat them
Jan 25th, 2008 07:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tony Stark
Nope... Savage gets downed.
Before Hulk left (pre Planet Hulk) he was beating the crap out of Ben in Las Vegas.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by nimbus006
Before Hulk left (pre Planet Hulk) he was beating the crap out of Ben in Las Vegas.
Empowered Hulk.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by severance
Even if vibranium can penetrate Hulks hide(which I am not convinced on) it will not stop Hulk. Vector flayed of 70% of Hulks flesh and it didn't stop him. Gladiator burnt all the way to hulks heart with his heat vision and it didn't stop him. Sh!t grey hulk was ripped apart by wolverine and he kept going and logan started to relaise he couldn't wound him fast enough.
Class 25 is way too weak to be a threat
Warpath pierced the Hulk's skin in WWH.....lol
The Hulk would still lose, but all your posts are filled with flaws.
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Jan 25th, 2008 08:54 PM
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Hulk wins. Superior strength, healing factor, thunderclap, etc.
Jan 25th, 2008 09:22 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Empowered Hulk.
By what?... the nuclear bomb that exploded?
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Jan 25th, 2008 09:37 PM
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Savage Hulk defeats those two within hours at best...mosty likely within a shorter time frame based on their fighting styles.
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Jan 26th, 2008 12:37 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Empowered Hulk.
Warpath pierced the Hulk's skin in WWH.....lol
The Hulk would still lose, but all your posts are filled with flaws.
how are my posts flawed are you saying a vibranium dagger is greater than wolverines claws or gladiator heat vision?
Jan 26th, 2008 12:41 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by severance
how are my posts flawed are you saying a vibranium dagger is greater than wolverines claws or gladiator heat vision?
Honestly it's llagrok, one of the biggest Hulk haters on this board. He's got his panties in a bunch ever since Hulk gave his boyhood love Thor a black eye decades ago.
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