No but in order to fight Onslaught it would need a physical body and since Jean is a mutant and if it makes a copy of her the copy is also a mutant. The no-mutant beating him thing would come into effect.
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the plan they had after onslaught became energy was to fill him up with their energies and reed said that a mutant would give him a way to live so when they filled him up the xmen and co let loose with all they had
so you guys are a little off anyway
DARK PHOENIX WINS
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i think moria was stating that nate has the potential to be on par with phoenix,but i see what you mean,on another topic,wanda goes into onslaught and someone says her hex will protect her i wonder if with onslaught coming back that it will have somthing to do with wandas powers recently and his return,i mean onslaught was made from xavier and magneto add wanda and you have House of M just somthing to think about
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Onslaught wins for one reason. As you guys said, Onslaught is extremely difficult for humans to defeat. Dark Phoenix, is a mutant. The phoenix force, is not. By specifying Dark Phoenix, you limit her power output. The phoenix force could beat Onslaught, that's not in dispute. What is whether or not Dark Phoenix, with the limits of jean's body, could defeat Onslaught. Now, all incarnations of Phoenix have unlimited power. The problem is, so does Onslaught. Feat-wise, Phoenix narrowly trumps Onslaught. Mostly cause she beat a weakened Galactus. However, big G was hungry at the time, so she might not beat a full power Galactus. Phoenix force could, but Dark Phoenix is not the limit of it's power. Basically, you handicapped DP and gave Onslaught potentially his full power. Btw, which version of Onslaught is it? Armor, beast, or psychedelic energy thingy?
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the "life force" of the Universe?
What are you talking about?
It's not the most awesome feat, but Phoenix has never done it.
Not on panel.
Galactus's Origin has been depicted THREE times On Panel, NEVER ONCE, was Phoenix mentioned.
If you can find me just ONE comic where this is drawn, I'll agree with you, but since I know your basing this idea on bios or handbooks I know you can't.
Tell me where if anywhere does it mention Phoenix supposedly "enabling Galen to incubate in the Cosmic Egg"....how about even JUST Saving Galactus...
Look hard...and realize Phoenix is NOT even mentioned during the Galactus history lesson.
Negative.
When Xorn shattered the Phoenix Force into a billion pieces, nothing happened to the Universe, or to any life in the Universe.
Thoeretically,
it has never happened on panel.
Stop counting on bios for info LU, that's a total exaggeration.
Genis-vell and Entropy destroyed and recreated Eternity, Phoenix had nothing to do with it (they gave it their own structure)
Wanda remade Eternity several times, (re-ordering it's structure, and PF had nothing to with it)
5 Cosmic Containment Units created from scratch a duplicate 616 Eternity, sustained by the thier own power, PF had nothing to do with it.
The Makers re-structured the Universe that contains the Micro-verse, PF had nothing to with it.
The Infinites re-structured 616 Eternity, again PF had nothing to with it.
Magus and Warlock BOTH REMADE Eternity with an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet, and still PF had nothing to do with it.
I couls go on but I think you get the picture.
You said without PIS, Phoenix takes this,
without PIS Onslaught has Franklyn Richards powers, (who can create pocket Universe) and Nate Grey's powers which together are FAAAAR beyond DP or the PF.
Phoenix has never even created a Galaxy.
Onslaught 10/10
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